Obama shouldn't be reelected.

[Becka]

You guys should be thankful you don't have George Bush anymore.

[Chi]

Unfortunately, I don't this section hasn't really been monitored since Ben got canned. Honestly, I stopped trying... But I would love to see what you have to say on the matter.

>.< Yeh I know, but it would be nice to see some logical discussions not just pure bashing each other.

I really don't think I should have a say here. Not american, and I think american politics are terrible, rigged and undermined by large corporations (capitalism). If I was american I would probably leave the country as soon as I could ;/

However, I don't see how Obama is bad compared to the conservatives, and your (Americans) previous president(s). At least he presents himself to the international community as an intellectual. I just don't think any of his actual policies are being accepted by the actual senate/whatever the equiv is like there (or so I've read)

[Azn]

>.< Yeh I know, but it would be nice to see some logical discussions not just pure bashing each other.

I really don't think I should have a say here. Not american, and I think american politics are terrible, rigged and undermined by large corporations (capitalism). If I was american I would probably leave the country as soon as I could ;/

However, I don't see how Obama is bad compared to the conservatives, and your (Americans) previous president(s). At least he presents himself to the international community as an intellectual. I just don't think any of his actual policies are being accepted by the actual senate/whatever the equiv is like there (or so I've read)

I would leave but I have too many family members here. Plus, I'm pretty accustomed to where I live, it's more liberal than conservative.

The reason why I won't vote for Romney is because he's an Obama that's conservative on social issues. Their healthcare plans are frighteningly similar for someone who calls himself the opposite of Obama.

In addition, he keeps citing Bain Capital as his economic experience, yet many of the companies that Bain Capital controlled at the time became bankrupted and many employees lost their jobs. So as for job creation, it's a bunch of BS.

[Ronith]

>.< Yeh I know, but it would be nice to see some logical discussions not just pure bashing each other.

I really don't think I should have a say here. Not american, and I think american politics are terrible, rigged and undermined by large corporations (capitalism). If I was american I would probably leave the country as soon as I could ;/

However, I don't see how Obama is bad compared to the conservatives, and your (Americans) previous president(s). At least he presents himself to the international community as an intellectual. I just don't think any of his actual policies are being accepted by the actual senate/whatever the equiv is like there (or so I've read)

Obama isn't the better of the two evils though.

In fact he caused a lot of collateral damage.

Here are some things he has done:

--Gave GM partially to the UAW
--Gave away Chrysler LLC to Fiat for free. Even though Magna International offered 6b USD for it.
Cerbreus capital management LLC didn't have to pay taxes while they had Chrysler for sale.
--Bailed out the banks.
--Cash for clunkers.

And......

Did Obama Target GOP Donors In Chrysler Dealer Closings?
You know it!

A tipster alerted me to an interesting assertion. A cursory review by that person showed that many of the Chrysler dealers on the closing list were heavy Republican donors.

To quickly review the situation, I took all dealer owners whose names appeared more than once in the list. And, of those who contributed to political campaigns, every single one had donated almost exclusively to GOP candidates. While this isn't an exhaustive review, it does have some ominous implications if it can be verified.

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Oh, and he eliminated over 20k jobs! Good job!

[Becka]

Obama isn't the better of the two evils though.

In fact he caused a lot of collateral damage.

Here are some things he has done:

--Gave GM partially to the UAW
--Gave away Chrysler LLC to Fiat for free. Even though Magna International offered 6b USD for it.
Cerbreus capital management LLC didn't have to pay taxes while they had Chrysler for sale.
--Bailed out the banks.
--Cash for clunkers.

And......

Did Obama Target GOP Donors In Chrysler Dealer Closings?
You know it!






(you need an account to see links)


Oh, and he eliminated over 20k jobs! Good job!

Lol he sounds worse than George Bush.

[Chi]

Obama isn't the better of the two evils though.

In fact he caused a lot of collateral damage.

Here are some things he has done:

--Gave GM partially to the UAW
--Gave away Chrysler LLC to Fiat for free. Even though Magna International offered 6b USD for it.
Cerbreus capital management LLC didn't have to pay taxes while they had Chrysler for sale.
--Bailed out the banks.
--Cash for clunkers.

And......

Did Obama Target GOP Donors In Chrysler Dealer Closings?
You know it!






(you need an account to see links)


Oh, and he eliminated over 20k jobs! Good job!

Yeh, like I said I don't have much to say because I'm not american.

I think a lot of things though like bailing out banks were a necessity because of the previous governments errors (and global errors).

(Plus not sure about the others, not familiar with the acronyms)

[Ronith]

Yeh, like I said I don't have much to say because I'm not american.

I think a lot of things though like bailing out banks were a necessity because of the previous governments errors (and global errors).

(Plus not sure about the others, not familiar with the acronyms)

It is a capatilist country. The banks should have failed.

[Becka]

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Lol ouch.

[Chi]

It is a capatilist country. The banks should have failed.

If the banks failed America would fail. Banks fund, small business, large business, government, households - everything.

Individuals/corporations would be borrowing from overseas (and even moving overseas 100x quicker than they are now - which means loss of jobs as well) which means cash-flow will be flowing out of the US constantly (good for other countries, terrible for the US). I'm not 100% how the economics works but it would significantly effect your $ and it would mean households would suffer greatly. Its not a pretty picture imo.

[I_royalty_I]

I remember that! Didn't one of there black hawks go down? ;o

Well I wasn't even talking about that.
I was talking about how they even found out he was in the complex in the first place

They weren't just like... oh hey let's give this a go and hope we get lucky!

Oh.. The show may be on YouTube, I shall find it. Thanks for telling that there is one. And Obama just approved it? Ah :/

I dunno if it was on youtube, but I saw it on TV.
And all he did was give the go ahead.
tbh they would have done it without his go ahead, but he is the president so they had to tell him.