[Discussion] How do you feel about the recent inflation in specific NP items?

[DrillyGang]

So, Neopets has literally been:

The Rapture X The Apocolypse X What I imagine it would be like to smoke PCP at a Wiggles concert X Hell 2: Electric Boogaloo

BUUUUUUUUT

since we're all so hopelessly co-depentant on this petsite to bring us the calming nostalgic wave of dopamine boosting thru the brain, lets have a roundtable discussion (i almost said pizza, sue me) about the rampant inflation of certain items, namely PB's, Nerkmids, R99's, and a few other thingies i've noticed go higher than I do when I was in my traphouse phase.

Let's look at some ~*~ prime examples ~*~


Halloween Paint Brush
TP Value; 4,000,000+++ NP
Inflation: 200% +/-


Faerie Paint Brush
TP Value: 8,000,000+ NP
Inflation: 175-225%+


Candy Paint Brush
TP Value: 7,000,000 NP
Inflation: 150%-175%


Invisible Paint Brush
TP Value: 4,500,000 NP+
Inflation: 400%++


Chaos Giant Plushie
TP Value: 6,000,000 NP+
Inflation: 160%-200%


Faerie Bori Morphing Potion
TP Vallue 3,500,000-4,000,000 NP+
Inflation: 130%-160%


Faerie Ruki Morphing Potion
TP Value: 6,000,000 NP
Inflation: 275%-325%+


Meepit Muffins
TP Value: 12,000,000 NP+
Inflation: 300%-400%

Thats just a Few examples of the massive inflation of random items, not to mention the Nerkmid price spike, going from 65,000 NP-90,000 NP to 125,000 NP (give or take 10,000 NP) as the standard going rate for almost all Nerks, it's insane.

And don't get me started on Kad Foods...

Thesea are the prices i've seen/been quoted or asked to pay:

Tigersquash Custard: 50,000,000 NP
Glowing Apple: 50,000,000 NP
Chokato Toffee Apple: 25.000,000-50,000,000 NP
Raspberry Toffee Apple: 40,000,000 NP

..... i mean, that just nauseates me to no end lol.

So, my question(s) for yall, cK peeps;

What is causing this inflation? Is it a decrease in these items spawning in restocks, random events, or "items that give items"

What do you speculate the next group(s) of items are that are gonna take a massive price hike?

What is there to do? What can anyone of us do? Because this is going to eventually going to break the Neo-Economy. I've seen it before. It starts off smallish than populates like wildfire overnight seemingly!!

Anyways, share items you've seen inflate like a mothaf... lately... Discuss any possible plans or ideas to deal with it (besides the obvious buy at least 500,000,000-1,000,000,000 NP in items so you can afford all the inflated goods)

[caviar]

I think one reason for the change in the paint brushes/morphing potions is pet slots and creatable UCs on the horizon. Faerie, plushie, grey, etc are going to spike even more once we get NC UCs.

[ezekielhabermann]

I wouldn't go so far to call it the end of the economy preceded by super inflation. The issue (for PBs at least ) is demand...

See with the new pet slots means more folks want more pets. Those pets need to get morphed and painted driving up the demand of those and related items. Nerks should also be seeing similar increase to PBs.

[♥ Wandas ♥]

I feel as though the vast majority of the inflating items relate to two things. New pet slots and the inevitability of neocash UCs.

New pet slots = more pets that need to be painted/morphed and neocash UCs mean that morphing potions are very desirable along with paint brushes of course. Even morphing potions that don't transform into UC pets are somewhat valuable as one can for example one can hypothetical morph a pet into a halloween blumaroo and then premium perk that pet so it becomes a halloween moehog or lupe for UC purposes.

Nerkmids are affected by this because of the rising price and increasing demand for paint brushes. Its tempting to buy a couple nerkmids and test your luck rather than spend 10 million on a maraquan paint brush.

Kads is possibly because people are returning to the site due to the hype and the Kad avatar is one of the most desirable avatars.

I feel like the next group of items that are going to skyrocket are stamps and NP backgrounds/foregrounds. Both of these are already inflating but they will especially reach new heights for the appeal of avatar collecting and customization respectively

[Cookie Tray]

Even morphing potions that don't transform into UC pets are somewhat valuable as one can for example one can hypothetical morph a pet into a halloween blumaroo and then premium perk that pet so it becomes a halloween moehog or lupe for UC purposes.

TNT said they wouldn't require you to have the pet painted the pre-UC color, they'd have it so that you buy a UC Faerie potion (for example) and as long as the species has that UC color, it'll change.

I hate the inflation. I am seeking a couple of these items and they've quadrupled in price to where I can't afford them with NP! Even pre-conversion or post-conversion, PB and MP potion prices were never this high.
I think groups are specifically inflating items, not just demand bringing them up.

[♥ bottledwater ♥]

I haven't felt the kad one as I just don't go for those items? Feel like the avatar was reasonable to get, just have to devote a couple of weeks/month to grinding. Dare I say it was even fun...?!?!

What were PB prices back when draiks/krawks were 10mil? I can't seem to recall, but I feel like they were just as high? I think with FQCs/Premium Perk it's a lot better now than it was back then, though that requires spending real money lol.

[Using My Pass]

Sorry to neckbeard everyone but confirming some of the paintbrush inflation is artificial, many large jumps have been made by as few as 2 accounts.

I was stalking one PB in particular and watched the TP clear out in real time (not literally, but over the shortest time I've seen thus bar by a massive whack) and then two users popped up at nearly the same time with seeking price of 4 million more than the last highest price.

I then watched it happen to a couple of other PBs and, let's just say, if you find an unrelated item with an 'inflation notice' on jellyneo and search it on the TP, you'll start seeing recurring usernames having them up for trade. Often popping up around the same time, just after the TP clears out randomly.

The demand for PBs is definitely higher with pet slots and whatnot, but the massive surges we're seeing are intentional.

The same can be said for nerkmids. When they first shot up, you could see the stores with 50+ of each nerkmid, the price kept dropping back but now has stabilised at 100k+. Funnily enough, one of the stores belonged to a user I recognised from watching pb prices lmao. Cunts.

(I'm not naming because it's anecdotal and could be the world's biggest coincidence - and also because one of the accounts has a note to TNT on their profile that suggests other people might be fucking with them)

TY for letting me get this off my chest because it's been making so fucking mad. I want PBs that aren't even UC or popular.

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I haven't felt the kad one as I just don't go for those items? Feel like the avatar was reasonable to get, just have to devote a couple of weeks/month to grinding. Dare I say it was even fun...?!?!

What were PB prices back when draiks/krawks were 10mil? I can't seem to recall, but I feel like they were just as high? I think with FQCs/Premium Perk it's a lot better now than it was back then, though that requires spending real money lol.

You can actually track the prices via jellyneo and there are some pbs that were less than 200k back in the day that are now 5-7 mill.

Some of the popular ones have gone back to their peak values and others have/had gone above that.

I was being a massive dork and putting the info into graphs recently and it's actually whack

[oventoast]

I think at this point the inflation is healthy and it is necessary, since TNT refuses to implement new NP sinks while continuing to provide ways to print neopoints faster than the federal reserve. Would I prefer that they curb it, get some neopoints out of the economy, etc? Yeah. But at the same time it is nice when things are valued differently and when it actually takes time and effort to get things and you can work to achieve value! It is nice to actually spend time on the site doing stuff...

I don't think it is only pet specific either. Stamps are inflating too, but that could be for other external reasons too.

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Sorry to neckbeard everyone but confirming some of the paintbrush inflation is artificial, many large jumps have been made by as few as 2 accounts.

I was stalking one PB in particular and watched the TP clear out in real time (not literally, but over the shortest time I've seen thus bar by a massive whack) and then two users popped up at nearly the same time with seeking price of 4 million more than the last highest price.

I then watched it happen to a couple of other PBs and, let's just say, if you find an unrelated item with an 'inflation notice' on jellyneo and search it on the TP, you'll start seeing recurring usernames having them up for trade. Often popping up around the same time, just after the TP clears out randomly.

The demand for PBs is definitely higher with pet slots and whatnot, but the massive surges we're seeing are intentional.

The same can be said for nerkmids. When they first shot up, you could see the stores with 50+ of each nerkmid, the price kept dropping back but now has stabilised at 100k+. Funnily enough, one of the stores belonged to a user I recognised from watching pb prices lmao. Cunts.

(I'm not naming because it's anecdotal and could be the world's biggest coincidence - and also because one of the accounts has a note to TNT on their profile that suggests other people might be fucking with them)

TY for letting me get this off my chest because it's been making so fucking mad. I want PBs that aren't even UC or popular.

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You can actually track the prices via jellyneo and there are some pbs that were less than 200k back in the day that are now 5-7 mill.

Some of the popular ones have gone back to their peak values and others have/had gone above that.

I was being a massive dork and putting the info into graphs recently and it's actually whack

yeah this is my conspiracy theory too. the user that does it also brags about it on the neoboards lol

[Using My Pass]

I think at this point the inflation is healthy and it is necessary, since TNT refuses to implement new NP sinks while continuing to provide ways to print neopoints faster than the federal reserve. Would I prefer that they curb it, get some neopoints out of the economy, etc? Yeah. But at the same time it is nice when things are valued differently and when it actually takes time and effort to get things and you can work to achieve value! It is nice to actually spend time on the site doing stuff...

I don't think it is only pet specific either. Stamps are inflating too, but that could be for other external reasons too.

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yeah this is my conspiracy theory too. the user that does it also brags about it on the neoboards lol

I get your point on inflation being healthy and necessary. The issue is more that (for me) finishing pet goals that I had PRIOR to getting more slots/pets is now unobtainable.

The total of completing original goals is now higher than the largest amount of Neopoints I've ever owned. At this point it's entirely unobtainable without going back to playing 8+ hours a day and even then, with the smaller playerbase it's a tedious task.

Restocking, FC, dailies, select flipping, none of that is going to be enough to get the colours I've planned for, let alone galleries I was working on. Meanwhile any of my older, more expensive gallery items seem to fall into one of 2 categories 1: Deflated by the shop revamp, 2: UB and non-existent (aka unlikely to be able to replace). So i've run out of options and proceeding almost seems silly like, i may not finish by the time the site dies.

Sorry, I did my classic "accidentally ranted all up in ya face". This isn't me trying to argue with you or anyone else. I am specifically exasperated with people artificially inflating shit and it's been bothering me for nearly a year lmao

[oventoast]

I get your point on inflation being healthy and necessary. The issue is more that (for me) finishing pet goals that I had PRIOR to getting more slots/pets is now unobtainable.

The total of completing original goals is now higher than the largest amount of Neopoints I've ever owned. At this point it's entirely unobtainable without going back to playing 8+ hours a day and even then, with the smaller playerbase it's a tedious task.

Restocking, FC, dailies, select flipping, none of that is going to be enough to get the colours I've planned for, let alone galleries I was working on. Meanwhile any of my older, more expensive gallery items seem to fall into one of 2 categories 1: Deflated by the shop revamp, 2: UB and non-existent (aka unlikely to be able to replace). So i've run out of options and proceeding almost seems silly like, i may not finish by the time the site dies.

Sorry, I did my classic "accidentally ranted all up in ya face". This isn't me trying to argue with you or anyone else. I am specifically exasperated with people artificially inflating shit and it's been bothering me for nearly a year lmao

i mean the paintbrushes thing is obviously not just purely inflation or demand, theres people literally trying to pump them up which is annoying lol