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    Smile Suggestion for another gender option or the ability to leave it blank!

    As someone who has a non-binary partner, and someone who's still in the process of questioning/discovering my own gender I think more gender options for the forum would be great! (I thought I was trans, but gender is a spectrum and I'm somewhere on the male end of it even though that does not feel completely right either. IT'S TOUGH Y'ALL and I'm not having a fun time figuring it out. )

    Perhaps an option to write your own gender could be implemented? Though I know that can be abused by some. (I'm having flashbacks to the attack helicopter stuff)

    Another option would be "Other" like Neopets, or the ability to leave it blank. Or a red X or ? where gender goes. (not even kidding!)

    The profile currently gives me an error if I try to update my settings with a blank gender.

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    i'd like to second this! i came here to make a post about it but it's good i searched first!

    i wonder why it's not on the front page, huh!

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    I hope it's okay that I'm sharing insights from a conversation I had about this. I'm also in favor of this, but it's my understanding it's a lot easier said than done with what the forum is built on. Some technical aspects of this forum are old, and things weren't always designed with the same level as acceptance and inclusivity we have now. I don't believe the current system has room for anything else beyond mars/venus symbol. Which sucks, a lot, and I am frustrated. I have sympathy for our staff who don't have wiggle room to work with short of removing the entire thing and putting in something new. Especially because they've been busy with a lot of other things lately.

    I've actually had a couple of interesting discussions about databases and digital gender markers over the years. It's something we're still kind of figuring out and will change as diversity in tech changes. I once read a piece that touches on this called "The Gender Binary Will Not Be Deprogrammed", originally published in New Media and Society. I also read through some things that the work cited and later cited that piece, but I can't recall which ones specifically. I can't find a source online where the piece isn't behind a paywall, but I've had good luck on ResearchGate just contacting authors to say "hey, I related to this, can I read your thing". In general there's a lot of interesting things to be said about transness (or at least non-cis-ness) and existing in online spaces, especially ones that date back a long time.

    As somebody who feels kind of "¯\_(ツ)_/¯" about my relationship with gender, but ultimately sticks with default settings, I found putting my pronouns in my location to be helpful in a way. I know that's not an ideal solution for everybody, especially when either symbol feels wrong, but hope that's an idea that can alleviate discomfort for some of you (most of us put fake location anyway).



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    that's a really good take on the whole thing, thank you!

    i might do the pronouns thing if nothing else -- people here seem to be pretty accepting, it seems? i mean, we have a user with nonbinary in their name and i haven't heard anyone be rude to them, so!

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    I support this just because I don't like putting my gender out there. Even just "other" or letting us leave it blank would be good for me.

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    Hey everyone! This is a suggestion that's come up a few times. vBulletin's Gender option interface was outdated, and didn't offer the nuance that is often present in today's discussions of gender and gender identity.


    So, the old gender binary has gone away! (Wish it were that easy irl)


    There is now a different field available in Settings > Edit Profile - "Pronouns." Should you choose to define your pronouns, please use this field for them.




    If you'd like to add your gender to the forum, we recommend you use the "Biography" field available in Settings > Edit Profile > Additional Information. Gender is often more complicated than just "Male/Female/Other," and using this field will allow you to either abstain from talk of yourself or your gender at all, jot down a quick "cishet - timezone gmt +2," or detail your gender and origin story in full.


    The values you put in the "Pronouns" field, if any, will appear next to your posts. Please note that the Biography field does not appear next to every post. This field cannot show up there by default, and pronouns are often more relevant than gender when addressing someone directly.




    We expect this field to be used for detailing pronouns in a respectful and positive way. Filling out this field with deliberately antagonistic values will not be tolerated.
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    Thank you so much staff for implementing this! <3<3<3


    [edit]

    I meant to post this earlier and then I forgot and then I wasn't sure if it was making too much of a joke, but may I present to you:




    [edit2]
    Credit owed to @(you need an account to see links) for sending me that meme a couple weeks ago, sorry for stealing your glory on this one!


    Also sorry for such a quick and dirty thank you after writing a novel up there, I really do appreciate this and am so glad to see this, but I've gotten a bit sick since writing my post earlier and don't quite have the brain capacity to form much of a thought. Thanks again!
    Last edited by kittyray; 04-07-2021 at 07:56 PM.



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    I am SO EXCITED about this development! I know that technical restrictions made this a challenge when it was brought up in the past but this solution is wonderful!

    Thank you ck staff for wrestling with the difficulties of a sometimes-archaic platform and overcoming them, this is so important and meaningful <3

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    THIS IS SO BALLER!!! thank you so much for this!!!

    @(you need an account to see links) @(you need an account to see links) that meme is fucking amazing, thank you

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    Thanks to everybody who pushed hard for this change. We love you all, and we hope that this option is used in earnest. Please be kind to one another.

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