To also emphasize your point, Troy Davis of Georgia, was wrongly executed. Hundreds of people realize that he didn't kill the cop that he was accused of doing. He also didn't carry firearms that night and since this is in Georgia, I'm expecting that racism was also rampant throughout the case. Even the jury said that they didn't even have an ounce of proof that related him to this case, but out of fear, we executed him. He was a genuine guy and many people were outraged by the decision.Originally Posted by Azn
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I find it inexcusable that they would execute a man that they have little to no evidence implicating that he killed McPhail. Its especially inexcusable when there was another suspect to the case. Sylvester Coles has 9 affidavits claiming that he is the real killer. They should have at least conducted an investigation on Coles but instead they kill a man based on hunches.
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Eh, just on that specific case. I played an admittedly small part of that campaign to have his case reheard, as an Amnesty member/activist, we had a city supporting Troy's right to a fair trial which we believe he was denied. I however am not convinced of his innocence. As the line went in the campaign, there was "too much doubt"- It wasn't that he was necessarily innocent but rather than there was not enough proof that he did do it. Don't forget, a big piece of evidence(his clothing) was not permitted due to the method the police used to obtain it(something about the way they entered his house) which would have provided the evidence. I don't think it's right to say Troy was innocent, but he is certainly an example of why the death penalty is wrong- there was simply too much doubt in his case to make such an irreversible decision.
I think its natural to seek revenge because of emotion and evolutionary reasons. I'm going to take this to a whole other level but, pretty much the reason I'd want to get rid of them or make sure they got the death penalty is that I want to make sure that their genetic traits do not get passed on (anymore if they already have a family). They removed one of my family members and thus ruined or damaged chance for our genes to survive.
IF the person murdered someone else I would leave it up to the law. Now I do think america is flawed in some cases and especially 60 years ago as I think America had far more extreme racial prejudices than Australians ever had (I could be wrong, but I should mention I'm half italian/lebanese so i am kind of not biased as I never experienced any racial prejudices to date). I would say today with forensic science and the amount of technology we have to track, record and follow people that it would be able to pin point the murderer fairly easily. Unless there is something medically or psychology wrong with the murderer (that can be tested and proved by multiple specialists) and if the murderer had no motive or reason to kill this person then I'd agree to the death penalty.
If the murderer knew the person and the deceased put the murderer through hell I don't think the death penalty should be considered.
If the murderer killed multiple times then I think the death penalty should be used.
This is all generalized though because there are so many cases, victims and accused individuals that its hard to make a general ruling on should there be a death penalty or not.
In regards to drugs and being trialed overseas...I don't really understand why 50% of Australians agreed with executing a drug smuggler. I guess it would depend on the amount of drugs smuggled. If it was...an insane amount (I have no understanding of drugs and their value but if I say over 10mil in drugs I hope its a decent amount) I would accept the death penalty for the following reasons.
1) Providing drugs in another country (and the country Australians would in mind is Indonesia/Bali) causes a lot of problems and these problems are..
a) Gang related
b) Medical problems
c) Social problems
All a, b and c can potentially cause death to innocent people. a) Causes problems like crime wars b) being addiction, overdosing and date rape occurances, c)would be a mix of police and distributor violence, an excess amount of drugs readily available may make the place unattractive to tourist, which is the only thing Bali and Indonesia have going for them at some stages of the year.
So yes...I can think of a lot of scenarios where the drug smuggler is pretty much a murderer or at least supplying the weapon and catalyst for murder.
QUESTION TO COUNTRIES WHERE FIREARMS ARE SOLD READILY:
In return to my above response to drugs, do you think the weapons provider of mass murders (where a firearm or bombs have been purchased and used) should be punished as well with prison time for distributing the item?
I feel as if other countries look to the United States to see their stance on issues. So if the United States were to fully legalize the death penalty, other countries may do the same. I these other countries get the chance to fully legalize it, they could use it to do much harm to innocent people, depending on who controls their prison system.
Just some thought... I thought about this in my head, perhaps that's not how it is.
The Death Sentence is always a touchy subject, i think that the death penalty should be illegal.
Firstly i think that everyone should have the chance to show remorse no matter what they did. Granted most wont but i think that everyone should be give the chance.
Also the death penalty to me is to take the easy way out. If someone has done something to get the death penalty then i think they should live out the rest of their life in prison.
Lastly you cant bring someone back from the dead and say oh sorry turns out you where innocent.
It should be legal. Instead of having tax payers pay for a murderers' living for the next 70 years, why don't we just kill him? Prisons are filling up, and it's eating up tax money that could be put to other things to make the US a better place.
I agree. I've always thought the death penalty should be legal for 1st degree murder, at least. If someone is able to kill another person with their own hands they shouldn't even be put in prison. Sure prison may be more miserable than death, but there are so many criminals that get released from prison that shouldn't be. And the death penalty is generally more humane than the murderer's methods, so it's not like it's some gruesome thing. As for televised executions though, that'd be a bit much!!I say just kill them and get it over with so we don't have to worry about people like this.
Unfortunately that's true. Countries that aren't as soft as we are punish innocent people, and that would just be an effect of legalizing the death penalty..a horrible effect. A thing I thought about is if the death penalty is ever legalized it would be years from now and since America is losing so much esteem already, no one would follow our lead by then...so 50/50 I guessI feel as if other countries look to the United States to see their stance on issues. So if the United States were to fully legalize the death penalty, other countries may do the same. I these other countries get the chance to fully legalize it, they could use it to do much harm to innocent people, depending on who controls their prison system.
I think that the death penalty should be brought back, but only for very extreme cases, such as mass murder/rape/other similar things to that, because of the amount of pain and suffering that the victims have had to go through, the person that has done that doesn't deserve to carry on or go to prison. (such as Josef Fritzl)
However there's always going to be that chance that the person is innocent of what they were accused of..and people can never be 100% right about it.
Plus, I do think that, depending on the person, a life sentence in prison would be worse (and by life, I mean that they spend the rest of their lives inside prison, and not just 30 years)
I believe that murder is only acceptable if it is for the sake of self defense.
Other than that, I think that if you take someone's life away with no purpose or out of hatred, I think you deserve to die as well.
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