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colton
09-05-2012, 12:00 AM
Gays are allowed to serve right now in the military under the don't ask don't tell policy. I for one don't want gays to be allowed to openly serve. Just for the record, I'm not against gay marriage. If its in their pursuit of happiness who am I to tell them who they can and can not marry. But for the military, its going to cause issues. Maybe not for some of the support units but for those of us in combat arms units where unit cohesion is very very important it can cause some serious issues. In the military we joke about being gay, and someone being a fag all the time, its just part of the humor. But if someone were openly gay, they would probably get killed or hazed beyond belief. I for one as an NCO don't want to have to deal with any soldiers harassing a gay soldier to no end. Or vise versa, a couple gay soldiers harassing a straight soldier. I can hear it now, the accusations of sexual harassment and rape coming from both sides. fucking nightmare. Just one more thing to distract us from our mission.

I say this, if gays are allowed to openly serve, shower with me, sleep in open barracks etc, then we should eliminate male and female separation. Everyone sleeps in the same barracks, showers in the same place, uses the same latrines etc.

I can not stand politicians and people in general that have never served a day in the military who try and tell ME how the military and its policies should be ran.

Opinions?

Macho
09-05-2012, 04:29 AM
I served in the military before and I agree with you to a certain extent. I'm still pretty neutral towards having to associate myself closely with gays, as long as they don't cross the line

Riku
09-05-2012, 05:13 AM
So you don't want gays in the military because you and your friends can't stop being assholes? Great case you're making here.

Sci_Girl
09-05-2012, 10:23 AM
What exactly is the problem that they are going to cause? If they want to stand in front of a bullet for their fellow American's then all the power to them regardless of their sexual orientation. War is not grade school, you are not going to catch cooties by being around someone you do not like.

Chi
09-05-2012, 05:22 PM
I say this, if gays are allowed to openly serve, shower with me, sleep in open barracks etc, then we should eliminate male and female separation. Everyone sleeps in the same barracks, showers in the same place, uses the same latrines etc.

I can not stand politicians and people in general that have never served a day in the military who try and tell ME how the military and its policies should be ran.

Opinions?


Of course fem and male quarters should be segregated. I don't want to shower and sleep with a bunch of men, especially if I've had a bad experience with men, nor do I want to go into a shower shared by men because guess what, showering with a bunch of penises is not my most relaxing shower. There is nothing wrong with men of any sexuality using the same facilities - it sounds to me that you dont want gays to use the same facilities as you because you think they are going to check you out and that makes you uncomfortable? I don't think that's how they roll. I have a feeling they aren't attracted to people who openly jeer them.


And I'm sorry, accusations of sexual harassment/rape? If you aren't responsible enough to control your sexual urges you shouldn't be in the army >.>

colton
09-05-2012, 09:05 PM
So you don't want gays in the military because you and your friends can't stop being assholes? Great case you're making here.

I am questioning if you are capable of reading or if something hindering this ability. Nowhere in my post did I write that the military disallows gay men to serve. They just can't serve openly. O-P-E-N-L-Y. (I spelled it out for you since you clearly can't read. ) Why change something that worked? It is so painfully obvious to me that you have NEVER served in the military.

Ever since the policy has been repealed low morale cost lives on the battle field. Distrust and lack of loyalty causes tension among leadership. When someone is uncomfortable being around someone, how can you trust them? Would you? Don't ask don't tell works. Gays can serve if they choose. I don't ask and they don't tell, period. I rather not know and there wouldn't be issues. Since you are probably not in the military you cannot possibly comprehend the gravity of the situation. I don't care if someone is gay, just don't force your lifestyle on those who appose it.

God bless America.

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Reese
09-05-2012, 09:16 PM
colton

I don't care if someone is gay, just don't force your lifestyle on those who appose it.
I don't see how being openly gay forces anything on you-it's not as though I am threatened by being around heterosexuality :P.

Chi
09-05-2012, 09:35 PM
I am questioning if you are capable of reading or if something hindering this ability. Nowhere in my post did I write that the military disallows gay men to serve. They just can't serve openly. O-P-E-N-L-Y. (I spelled it out for you since you clearly can't read. ) Why change something that worked? It is so painfully obvious to me that you have NEVER served in the military.

Ever since the policy has been repealed low morale cost lives on the battle field. Distrust and lack of loyalty causes tension among leadership. When someone is uncomfortable being around someone, how can you trust them? Would you? Don't ask don't tell works. Gays can serve if they choose. I don't ask and they don't tell, period. I rather not know and there wouldn't be issues. Since you are probably not in the military you cannot possibly comprehend the gravity of the situation. I don't care if someone is gay, just don't force your lifestyle on those who appose it.

God bless America.

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How does being gay affect your trust? Who cares what their sexual orientation is. It seems you're insecure with your own issues ;/ If anyone in the Army cannot trust someone because they have a different sexual orientation then they shouldn't be in the army :/

You aren't so good looking and handsome that every gay man is going to be attracted to you. They aren't going to touch you and you are going to pref the same sex.

And when people say 'God Bless America' I cringe every single time.

Cody.
09-05-2012, 09:39 PM
what is this? I dont even know.

Riku
09-05-2012, 09:43 PM
I am questioning if you are capable of reading or if something hindering this ability. Nowhere in my post did I write that the military disallows gay men to serve. They just can't serve openly. O-P-E-N-L-Y. (I spelled it out for you since you clearly can't read. ) Why change something that worked? It is so painfully obvious to me that you have NEVER served in the military.

Ever since the policy has been repealed low morale cost lives on the battle field. Distrust and lack of loyalty causes tension among leadership. When someone is uncomfortable being around someone, how can you trust them? Would you? Don't ask don't tell works. Gays can serve if they choose. I don't ask and they don't tell, period. I rather not know and there wouldn't be issues. Since you are probably not in the military you cannot possibly comprehend the gravity of the situation. I don't care if someone is gay, just don't force your lifestyle on those who appose it.

First of all, yes, I can read, thank you. And no, I have never served, and I will never serve for multiple reasons, but that's a different topic entirely.

Why can't gay people serve openly? I'm not the kind of person who goes around and flaunts my gayness, but if someone asks me, I will tell them. The distrust and lack of loyalty is coming from straight people who can't handle being in the same unit with gay guys. Newsflash: gay people aren't predators. We don't lust after every single guy that crosses our path. For all I know, you're ass-ugly. The lack of trust, the "inevitable" rape "issues", all of it is YOUR problem because YOU can't handle the fact that one of your own is gay.

Gayness does NOT, in any way, affect ability to perform on the battlefield. A straight guy can aim and shoot just as well as a gay guy can. There should be absolutely no unit cohesion problems. The problems come from people like you who are too insecure and ignorant to realize that gay people are no better and no less than you.

Frank12
09-05-2012, 09:56 PM
Why, oh why, did we need to bring up another issue about homosexuality v heterosexuality?

I thought we were over this shit.

First off, Gay people should be allowed to serve in any way they wish. Times change, and if you can't change with them, you just get left behind. Should we also ban assholes from the army because we can't get along with them? How about women? How about Blacks, or Latinos, or Asians? Just because you can't mentally develop past the reasoning capabilities of a high school football jock doesn't mean SHIT in the real world. Grow up, develop the ability to get along with others, and stop being an ass. As a leader, you will have to deal with a situation you may not like. If you can't handle it, someone else who can will. The ironic part is someday, it will be a black, female, lesbian who takes that place. What happens then?

As for this whole gay/straight, my respect for people is not defined by there sexual orientation. It is not a disease, nor something foul or unethical. This goes for both sides though, if you want something to change, stop saying there is a difference. You are what you are, but labeling yourself as different initially sets a dividing faction amongst an otherwise peaceful confrontation or association.

I know some people feel very strongly about this current topic, however I think there are more pressing issues at hand that need to be discussed. Civil issues are the least of the concerns in the United States at the moment. Real, tangible issues such as "Will I have a job tomorrow, will my kids have a job and house when they get older, will I be paid my pension, how will I survive retirement, and will America recover" are many issues that are more pressing than this trivial debate about something that should have been decided a long time ago. Gay marriage and gay rights are no different than those of a straight man or woman. We need to stop defining people by characteristics that mean absolutely nothing to us as an individual.

Also, just to put you in your place colton , America is no longer the greatest country in the world. The defense budget is funded by the government. The government is in debt. Debt means they have no money. No money = No defense budget = no big military for you to quiver about a stereotype. Did I simplify that enough?

If I left anything out, I'll make a return appearance after I finish this fucking homework.

Ahh, I knew I forgot something.
If you wish to be taken seriously in a conversation, never state God Bless America. You lose the credibility of any liberal and any agnostic here.

And for the record, I am a male, white, heterosexual man. I'm also a conservative. Any questions as to my lack of affiliation with the 'dark side' as I feel you would name it?

colton
09-05-2012, 10:02 PM
First of all, yes, I can read, thank you. And no, I have never served, and I will never serve for multiple reasons, but that's a different topic entirely.

Why can't gay people serve openly? I'm not the kind of person who goes around and flaunts my gayness, but if someone asks me, I will tell them. The distrust and lack of loyalty is coming from straight people who can't handle being in the same unit with gay guys. Newsflash: gay people aren't predators. We don't lust after every single guy that crosses our path. For all I know, you're ass-ugly. The lack of trust, the "inevitable" rape "issues", all of it is YOUR problem because YOU can't handle the fact that one of your own is gay.

Gayness does NOT, in any way, affect ability to perform on the battlefield. A straight guy can aim and shoot just as well as a gay guy can. There should be absolutely no unit cohesion problems. The problems come from people like you who are too insecure and ignorant to realize that gay people are no better and no less than you.
You have never served just as I suspected. You don't ever plan to serve either, What is up with that? Are you not patriotic to the United States of America???

Seeing as you are not in the military how can you even formulate an argument? You have no idea what goes inside the military. The DADT eliminated the discrimination from gay people. If you don't know, you can't discriminate! That is how it worked. Your personal life and your job – the Army/Navy/Air Forces are two separate matters. You should never mix both of them.

I think what some people are forgetting is that homosexuals were allowed to serve in today’s military under the Don't as Don't tell policy! I have encountered several soldiers whom I'm sure were gay, but I didn't ask them what their sexual orientation was and I didn't tell. Plain and simple life goes on nobody gets hurt. The current policy is perfectly fine in my book. Is there any particular reason you want to attract unwanted attention to yourself? What exactly do you gain by this? Or is this apart of your gay agenda to force tolerance down our throats.

God bless

Riku
09-05-2012, 10:12 PM
You have never served just as I suspected. You don't ever plan to serve either, What is up with that? Are you not patriotic to the United States of America???

Seeing as you are not in the military how can you even formulate an argument? You have no idea what goes inside the military. The DADT eliminated the discrimination from gay people. If you don't know, you can't discriminate! That is how it worked. Your personal life and your job – the Army/Navy/Air Forces are two separate matters. You should never mix both of them.

I think what some people are forgetting is that homosexuals were allowed to serve in today’s military under the Don't as Don't tell policy! I have encountered several soldiers whom I'm sure were gay, but I didn't ask them what their sexual orientation was and I didn't tell. Plain and simple life goes on nobody gets hurt. The current policy is perfectly fine in my book. Is there any particular reason you want to attract unwanted attention to yourself? What exactly do you gain by this? Or is this apart of your gay agenda to force tolerance down our throats.

God bless

Nope. I fucking hate this country and I cannot wait to move to Europe. I also hate the idea of war. But, like I said, totally different topic.

"Don't Ask Don't Tell" would prohibit me from saying "yes, I'm gay" if asked. It also allowed the military to dishonorably discharge gay people. That is why it is so ridiculous.

Also your arguments are hilarious. First with the "god bless" crap, and now the "gay agenda" crap. Yes: the gay agenda. Promoting humanity and acceptance. How horrible.

colton
09-05-2012, 10:39 PM
Nope. I fucking hate this country and I cannot wait to move to Europe. I also hate the idea of war. But, like I said, totally different topic.

"Don't Ask Don't Tell" would prohibit me from saying "yes, I'm gay" if asked. It also allowed the military to dishonorably discharge gay people. That is why it is so ridiculous.

Also your arguments are hilarious. First with the "god bless" crap, and now the "gay agenda" crap. Yes: the gay agenda. Promoting humanity and acceptance. How horrible.

Yes. The millitary did dishonorably discharge gay people. This was because they were having an open relationship while on the battle field. Do you realize how dangerous this is? There are also rules against PDA. YES- hetero's are restricted from hanging all over each other in or out of uniform. Shocking I know!!

Are you telling me “god bless” is crap? I will not tolerate if you insult my religion. You are offending a great number of people.

, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.

I am proud to be American citizen who fought for this country. God bless America and her troops.

Thunder
09-05-2012, 10:46 PM
Sorry to hurt your feelings, but if there is a god (not empirical proof), and if they DID happen to be the one you worshipped, even more unlikely then the first, and if they DID happen to JUST support your ONE country because you were BORN in it, even more unlikely then the last two, then he/she/it really isn't doing a good job at doing anything at all, now are they?

Second of all, you yourself are offending a bunch of people by saying they can't serve when they have every right to. The huge difference? What you take offence to is an insult to a belief. What they take offence to is you insulting who they were born as. Big difference, in my opinion. If you can't take it, don't deal it.

Lastly, if you are so uncomfortable with your own sexuality that you have to blame others for you feeling 'uncomfortable' around them, then you need to take a long look at yourself, and how very immature that is.

Frank12
09-05-2012, 10:47 PM
, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ..."
If your making your argument based off of a religious intext made 240 years ago, please, try again.


I am proud to be American citizen who fought for this country. God bless America and her troops.
America is a country, not a her. Speak in adult terms, not as an uneducated hick


Are you telling me “god bless” is crap? I will not tolerate if you insult my religion. You are offending a great number of people.
You've offended a great many people with your comments you bigot.

Chi
09-06-2012, 02:12 AM
I'm fairly sure that this is a troll, probably that Tom guy that suggested the 'don't ask don't tell' in the suggestion forums.

Dom~
09-06-2012, 02:46 AM
colton, I'm only 14 and id die before I went to war for someone else's greediness, I honestly have no problem with homosexuals that are in the war being open with their sexual orientation, they are perfectly fine, if you are offended by them than GTFO they have every right to be there, I have some really good friends that are gay/ bi-sexual, and than I greatly consider Cody and Riku my uncles because they are AMAZING people and there is nothing wrong with them, also I find it HORRIBLE that they mention "God" in almost every political/government/state job/ "pledge of allegiance" I do not even do that pledge of allegiance in school and they can no longer force you to, because sorry if I affend anyone but personally I do not believe in "God" and it disgusts me that it automatically autocorrects it to proper spelling, guess what I am trying to say is if you honestly think that is how the military should be ran than not only should you run out mid battle and get shells rained on you or someone with a sniper rifle is about to take your head off but I hope that you do run out there and someone pulls you back and that guy just so happens to be a homosexual, and just because of that one act of kindness from someone who is a homosexual, that would completely change your mind on them, because if he hadn't saved you than you would not be able to go back to your family, if you had one, which I HIGHLY doubt because people like you don't deserve loving families
I rest my case for now....

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Edit: just remembered, turned 15 today.....

archon_johnz
09-06-2012, 06:18 PM
This "debate" can basically be boiled down to:

(If you are a straight man) are you comfortable getting naked in front of an openly gay naked man, both showering at the same time in a public shower, knowing this may or may not be sexually arousing for him. (I'd get quite aroused if an attractive naked woman was showering 2 meters from me)

If you are cool with being in that situation, that's nice. I imagine a lot of (if not most) straight male soldiers aren't. I think being allowed to be openly gay is important and social justice blabla but in the army I can see that it could (not always) be detrimental to cohesion, and result in lost lives (both straight and gay).

I say go with what has worked. You can say that DADT is necessary only due to "assholes". Well, the "assholes" exist in large quantities so that argument makes it necessary nonetheless.

Riku
09-06-2012, 06:20 PM
This "debate" can basically be boiled down to:

(If you are a straight man) are you comfortable getting naked in front of an openly gay naked man, both showering at the same time in a public shower, knowing this may or may not be sexually arousing for him. (I'd get quite aroused if an attractive naked woman was showering 2 meters from me)

If you are cool with being in that situation, that's nice. I imagine a lot of (if not most) straight male soldiers aren't. I think being allowed to be openly gay is important and social justice blabla but in the army I can see that it could (not always) be detrimental to cohesion, and result in lost lives (both straight and gay).

I say go with what has worked. You can say that DADT is necessary only due to "assholes". Well, the "assholes" exist in large quantities so that argument makes it necessary nonetheless.

It's a shower. Not an orgy.

archon_johnz
09-06-2012, 06:26 PM
colton, I'm only 14 and id die before I went to war for someone else's greediness, I honestly have no problem with homosexuals that are in the war being open with their sexual orientation, they are perfectly fine, if you are offended by them than GTFO they have every right to be there, I have some really good friends that are gay/ bi-sexual, and than I greatly consider Cody and Riku my uncles because they are AMAZING people and there is nothing wrong with them, also I find it HORRIBLE that they mention "God" in almost every political/government/state job/ "pledge of allegiance" I do not even do that pledge of allegiance in school and they can no longer force you to, because sorry if I affend anyone but personally I do not believe in "God" and it disgusts me that it automatically autocorrects it to proper spelling, guess what I am trying to say is if you honestly think that is how the military should be ran than not only should you run out mid battle and get shells rained on you or someone with a sniper rifle is about to take your head off but I hope that you do run out there and someone pulls you back and that guy just so happens to be a homosexual, and just because of that one act of kindness from someone who is a homosexual, that would completely change your mind on them, because if he hadn't saved you than you would not be able to go back to your family, if you had one, which I HIGHLY doubt because people like you don't deserve loving families
I rest my case for now....

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Edit: just remembered, turned 15 today.....

Military efficiency and success is largely due to troop cohesion, morale, camaraderie ... it's not that the straight soldiers believe that the gay soldiers wouldn't save them in the heat of battle, it's just a lot of them don't feel the same bond they have with someone who is openly gay as they do with fellow straight soldiers, for at least the fact that they share common sexuality (and talk about beautiful women/girlfriend/wife). On top of that, of course, there are lots of homophobes in the army as there is everywhere. Letting gays be open in the army can put them in real danger as a result. DADT isn't as homophobic as it is practical, I believe.

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Riku why don't men and women share a public shower if it's just a shower? It isn't an orgy but people are naked.

Riku
09-06-2012, 06:38 PM
Because there are many more men than women who cannot control themselves, putting the women in danger. Female sex offenders total less than 6% of the sex offender population (source ([Only registered and activated users can see links])). Not surprisingly, a majority of sexual assault cases involving LGBT people involve a STRAIGHT person assaulting the GAY person (source ([Only registered and activated users can see links])).

So let's not make the gay people out to be the ones unable to control themselves.

archon_johnz
09-06-2012, 06:50 PM
Riku I didn't say gays cannot control themselves (or base any of my argument from the gay point of view). I said that there is likely a significant number of straight male soldiers uncomfortable being in that situation, much like a female would be uncomfortable naked 2 meters from a potentially horny straight male. The fact that most sex offenders are male doesn't refute my argument based on an all-male shower. As well, the claim that most sexual assault causes are by a straight person assaulting a gay person does not refute the merit of DADT in protecting gays.

You can say all day that there's a lot of homophobes and they're all morons and assholes, but the more that is true (in the army), the more DADT is needed.

redfeeniks
10-06-2012, 08:59 PM
Of course fem and male quarters should be segregated. I don't want to shower and sleep with a bunch of men, especially if I've had a bad experience with men, nor do I want to go into a shower shared by men because guess what, showering with a bunch of penises is not my most relaxing shower. There is nothing wrong with men of any sexuality using the same facilities - it sounds to me that you dont want gays to use the same facilities as you because you think they are going to check you out and that makes you uncomfortable? I don't think that's how they roll. I have a feeling they aren't attracted to people who openly jeer them.


And I'm sorry, accusations of sexual harassment/rape? If you aren't responsible enough to control your sexual urges you shouldn't be in the army >.>

Your point is contradicting.. Why should females and males be separated? because you don't feel comfortable with penises? from that point of view the OP has a point and a very good one then, why isn't it wrong for a straight/gay guy to shower with a gay/straight guy? what if he has bad experience with a gay/straight man?

Btw I'd feel most comfortable having shower with a bunch of boobs then penises XD.

In my opinion if gays are so happy to join the army then gay and straights should be separated, their quarters, showers EVERYTHING, and Rape does happen a lot especially in the army I just recently read :

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Judging from that I'm definitely sure gay soldiers would be raped by bisexuals who I'm sure are a lot in numbers in the army then gays, and straight guys mostly likely getting raped by gay soldiers/bisexuals...

as for according the topic point.. I agree but my opinion is gays and straights should be separate.

Chi
10-07-2012, 12:03 AM
Your point is contradicting.. Why should females and males be separated? because you don't feel comfortable with penises? from that point of view the OP has a point and a very good one then, why isn't it wrong for a straight/gay guy to shower with a gay/straight guy? what if he has bad experience with a gay/straight man?

Btw I'd feel most comfortable having shower with a bunch of boobs then penises XD.

In my opinion if gays are so happy to join the army then gay and straights should be separated, their quarters, showers EVERYTHING, and Rape does happen a lot especially in the army I just recently read :

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Judging from that I'm definitely sure gay soldiers would be raped by bisexuals who I'm sure are a lot in numbers in the army then gays, and straight guys mostly likely getting raped by gay soldiers/bisexuals...

as for according the topic point.. I agree but my opinion is gays and straights should be separate.

Then bisexuals have to live in solitary confinement because they can pounce on anyone.

There are differences physically and emotional differences between men and women. Furthermore the number of gay men in a unit would be few so the chances of something 'sexual' happening would be much smaller than if men and women were to share the same living areas.


Furthermore - the point I made is "And I'm sorry, accusations of sexual harassment/rape? If you aren't responsible enough to control your sexual urges you shouldn't be in the army >.>"

following onto that - If you have a previous history of being raped by a man (as a man) and you are still psychologically traumatized from that then the army (a occupation dominated by men) isn't something for you ;/ Its like signing up for the army but you are uncomfortable around guns because you were shot in the leg - you aren't psychologically prepared.\

Finally - [Only registered and activated users can see links] - women are raped in the army regardless of not sharing living areas.

redfeeniks
10-07-2012, 01:58 AM
Then bisexuals have to live in solitary confinement because they can pounce on anyone.

There are differences physically and emotional differences between men and women. Furthermore the number of gay men in a unit would be few so the chances of something 'sexual' happening would be much smaller than if men and women were to share the same living areas.


Furthermore - the point I made is "And I'm sorry, accusations of sexual harassment/rape? If you aren't responsible enough to control your sexual urges you shouldn't be in the army >.>"

following onto that - If you have a previous history of being raped by a man (as a man) and you are still psychologically traumatized from that then the army (a occupation dominated by men) isn't something for you ;/ Its like signing up for the army but you are uncomfortable around guns because you were shot in the leg - you aren't psychologically prepared.\

Finally - [Only registered and activated users can see links] - women are raped in the army regardless of not sharing living areas.

True and that is why men and women are separated but gays or homosexuals also have to be separated this way because their behavior and identity (super-masculine or feminine or a mix of both) is different then average straight guy, that leads to them to either get bullied/harassed by straight community or them raping/harassing the straight community, Point is they can engage in misconducts ranging from simple bullying, negative view to rape based on sexual identity and sexual based behavior, Identity and Behavior are two different things, identity is what you define yourself as a male or female while behavior is more based on sexual attraction depending on your identity,

I'm pretty sure the army does all the psychological profiling of who they enlist, it doesn't grantee there won't be any misconduct or rape now does it? in my link Panetta said over "19,000 alleged sexual assaults" in last year alone even when there is segregation among men and women.

As for bisexuals here is my opinion on the matter now I don't know what the army ask for when enlisting or if psychologists ask for sexuality but if someone does reports to be a bisexual I'd say its a Red Flag on that someone if that is there is a system for these things, however most bisexuals don't go about promoting themselves as bisexuals because their sexual identity is just what it is be it male or female(while most homosexuals have an sexual identity crisis), however their behavior towards other sexes is definitely gonna be attraction based, it depends if a bisexual is gonna rape or not be it male or female however Bisexual do exist a lot more in army and a lot more in prisons in my opinion and I believe bisexuality is also biological and psychological based reaction to confinement to a single sex community.. just as when in a group of female fish with no male, a fish becomes a male.. its sort of like that.. but I don't wanna elaborate it in this post.

anyhow the majority is straight no matter what field, and well from its point of view the society has a lot of stereotypes for gays, bisexual etc, minority always gets screwed

what the army should apply in the matter is Murphy's law, because if they send in a famine gay man in a pack of straight men his definitely is gonna get treated the same way a nerdy weak looking kid is treated in school by a bunch of bullies, and if they send in a Alpha male gay in the straight guy's pack his definitely is gonna be sexual harassing his buddies.

But straight community also does all the misconducts, I mean guys just generally harass everything that moves.

-edit-

Rape happens everywhere regardless of all environment blame human nature.