Zimmerman Not Guilty

[Empress]

The only reason why the case was a big deal was the race thing.
I think the defense won the jury when they pointed out that concrete can be a weapon.

[Smookie]

Martin lived nearby therefore presumably had also heard about the recent break ins. Imagine you're walking back from the shops one rainy night and an armed man starts chasing after you for no apparent reason. Just as you say there's nothing wrong with following someone, so there's nothing wrong with looking at windows as you walk past. That's no justification for shooting someone.

I think you're completely missing what actually happened.
Trayvon Martin went and attacked George Zimmerman and BASHED his head into concrete for 45 seconds.
So, you're telling me, that if you were getting your head bashed in by a 17 year old black male, you wouldn't try to save your life and pull your legally owned gun out?

[Raj]

@(you need an account to see links) I probably would, but would you shoot to kill? That is the real question which you seem to be ignoring. Let's not forget, while it may be self defense and while he was ruled innocent, he still killed someone.

[Smookie]

@(you need an account to see links) I probably would, but would you shoot to kill? That is the real question which you seem to be ignoring. Let's not forget, while it may be self defense and while he was ruled innocent, he still killed someone.

So, let me ask you.
Imagine getting your head bashed into concrete for 45 seconds.
Imagine screaming out for help over and over and having no one coming to help.
Would you be thinking
"Well, let me consider where I should shoot this innocent boy."

Do you think it was possible, while getting straddled, to point the gun somewhere else?

[Raj]

So, let me ask you.
Imagine getting your head bashed into concrete for 45 seconds.
Imagine screaming out for help over and over and having no one coming to help.
Would you be thinking
"Well, let me consider where I should shoot this innocent boy."

Do you think it was possible, while getting straddled, to point the gun somewhere else?

Innocent? By no means am I calling Martin innocent. I'm saying that your defense of Zimmerman is irrational - it may be self defense but it is not okay to kill. And yes, it is very possible. You can shoot him somewhere, anywhere as long as it's not his head or his chest. It's not that hard. Pick a target.



He'll be there all day. Look at how easy it is to not shoot at his head or his chest.

[Smookie]

Innocent? By no means am I calling Martin innocent. I'm saying that your defense of Zimmerman is irrational - it may be self defense but it is not okay to kill. And yes, it is very possible. You can shoot him somewhere, anywhere as long as it's not his head or his chest. It's not that hard. Pick a target.



He'll be there all day. Look at how easy it is to not shoot at his head or his chest.

Are you serious?
You obviously have no idea of what happened.
Trayvon Martin was on top of George Zimmerman.
How could he have possibly been able to get a proper shot off?
Trayvon Martin was smashing Zimmerman's head against the ground over and over.

[Scaletta01]

IF what he said actually happened, he has the right to kill if he feels he is in danger. I want you to be in that situation, do you live or do you die because you want to save some "kid's" life?

If I'm in danger and I could die/be hurt badly, my life is more important than the attacker's.

[Allegra]

Are you serious?
You obviously have no idea of what happened.
Trayvon Martin was on top of George Zimmerman.
How could he have possibly been able to get a proper shot off?
Trayvon Martin was smashing Zimmerman's head against the ground over and over.

Just because someone disagrees with you, doesn't mean you have to assume they're ignorant.
And about what Joe was saying about the phone calls, there was dispute over whether it was Zimmerman or Trayvon yelling for help.

[Smookie]

Just because someone disagrees with you, doesn't mean you have to assume they're ignorant.
And about what Joe was saying about the phone calls, there was dispute over whether it was Zimmerman or Trayvon yelling for help.

..He misstated facts.
Fine, he's just plain wrong.

You do know that the father of Trayvon Martin told police originally that
"The screaming wasn't my son"

Of course, with all the media hype he changed that.

[Allegra]

..He misstated facts.
Fine, he's just plain wrong.

You do know that the father of Trayvon Martin told police originally that
"The screaming wasn't my son"

Of course, with all the media hype he changed that.

I'm pretty sure I'm reading the same thing as you, he didn't state any facts differently to what you did except that he expressed his opinion that the gun could have been aimed somewhere else?
I've read that the mother was the one who swore she heard Trayvon on the recording. And again, could you please provide us with your source of information/point us in the right direction, since clearly we don't know as much as you do.