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    Quote Originally Posted by IndigoSunset View Post
    Nope, but if you were out for a stroll and someone started following you with a gun it's not unreasonable to feel threatened.
    Also, shouldn't the Stand Your Ground rules also apply to Martin? If someone is following you with a gun in the rain then I don't think it's unreasonable to fear death or great bodily harm. What's fucked up is that law that says it's ok to attack.
    What are you talking about?
    Zimmerman did NOT have his gun out while he was following Trayvon.
    Zimmerman was walking back to his car when Trayvon JUMPED him.
    Of course it's okay to attack when you are getting your head bashed into the concrete for 45 seconds.
    It'd be entirely fucked up if he wasn't able to attack back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smookie View Post
    What are you talking about?
    Zimmerman did NOT have his gun out while he was following Trayvon.
    Zimmerman was walking back to his car when Trayvon JUMPED him.
    Of course it's okay to attack when you are getting your head bashed into the concrete for 45 seconds.
    It'd be entirely fucked up if he wasn't able to attack back.
    Well if he was lying on his back with Martin on top of him with the gun holstered behind him then you try drawing your weapon in that situation. Which would suggest he had his gun drawn.

    Also, just by the by, is there any reason you call Zimmerman by his surname but Martin by his first?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smookie View Post
    What are you talking about?
    Zimmerman did NOT have his gun out while he was following Trayvon.
    Zimmerman was walking back to his car when Trayvon JUMPED him.
    Of course it's okay to attack when you are getting your head bashed into the concrete for 45 seconds.
    It'd be entirely fucked up if he wasn't able to attack back.
    Can I just politely request you provide the rest of us with where you're getting this information? I'm curious, clearly I've not read into it as much as I thought.
    Is this all just purely from Zimmerman's statement?

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    Man I've never seen someone so worked up about a case. I get being passionate, but can we be a little like respectful in our arguments?

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    @(you need an account to see links) Can you back up the things you've said so far? I watched this on CNN and other television programs and not one of them said these claims.

    Zimmerman called the police about him and told them he was following him. The cops clearly said to leave him alone and let them handle it. He did not listen, he kept following him. This alone should close the case, no?

    Seems to me this is just about race. Zimmerman went after this kid only because he was black.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infamous Joe View Post
    @(you need an account to see links) Can you back up the things you've said so far? I watched this on CNN and other television programs and not one of them said these claims.

    Zimmerman called the police about him and told them he was following him. The cops clearly said to leave him alone and let them handle it. He did not listen, he kept following him. This alone should close the case, no?

    Seems to me this is just about race. Zimmerman went after this kid only because he was black.
    Exactly, the guy was trying to act the hero without cause or reason.

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    Did you guys not hear the recorded phone calls? As the black people on the internet say, "SMH".
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    I have a few things to say about this.

    This trial has really had some surprising twists and turns. My initial feelings, when I saw the Jury was all female and 5/6 were married...and the Judge was a woman...I thought shit man, they really are not giving this guy a fair trial, they are manipulating the outcome because of how they seemingly picked a bias group of judges. I'm glad I was wrong.

    Its not a popular opinion but I do believe that Zimmerman was within his legal right to self defense. I'm really glad the ruling was handed down the way it was.

    The Prosecuting Attorney tried sooo hard to make Martin sound like an innocent little kid eating candy in a hoodie. Kept repeating things like "This CHILD" yada yada yada. Do children buy guns then take pictures of said gun, then take pictures of themselves smoking pot? One thing to remember is that in less than a year he would be legally old enough to die for his country. He really was less of a child, more of a young adult.

    I do deeply empathize for the parents but they really tried too hard to pull the race card. It also must be hard for them knowing what their son was like with the guns and drugs, and then be force-feeding the media this pristine image of a happy go lucky skittle eating kid.

    Also it was fecking ridiculous when Martins female friend who was on the phone with him, tried to out right deny that 'crazy ass cracka' wasn't a racial comment. I'm sorry but she looked, and sounded, pathetic. She could have said yeah it was, but no....I seriously wanted to jump through my tv and smack a bitch.

    Anyways *dodges projectiles* This was my opinion. If you supported Martin, you have that right, I'm not going to fight with you over your opinion. Laws need to be defined, when there are grey areas like when self defense turns to murder, its healthy and intelligent to discuss those boundaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infamous Joe View Post
    @(you need an account to see links) Can you back up the things you've said so far? I watched this on CNN and other television programs and not one of them said these claims.

    Zimmerman called the police about him and told them he was following him. The cops clearly said to leave him alone and let them handle it. He did not listen, he kept following him. This alone should close the case, no?

    Seems to me this is just about race. Zimmerman went after this kid only because he was black.
    Of course Joe!
    The operator said this
    "We don't need you to do that sir"
    The non-emergency number has absolutely no legal authority.
    The operator asked for a street name so George Zimmerman went to get it.
    When he was walking back to his car, he was confronted by Trayvon Martin.

    That's the problem, you are making it about race.
    There have been a bunch of burglaries in the area where Zimmerman lived.
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    Trayvon Martin was looking in windows of apartments on a rainy night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infamous Joe View Post
    Did you guys not hear the recorded phone calls? As the black people on the internet say, "SMH".
    The recorded phone calls?
    Those showed Zimmerman screaming for help for 45 seconds..
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    Martin lived nearby therefore presumably had also heard about the recent break ins. Imagine you're walking back from the shops one rainy night and an armed man starts chasing after you for no apparent reason. Just as you say there's nothing wrong with following someone, so there's nothing wrong with looking at windows as you walk past. That's no justification for shooting someone.

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