Creationism vs. Evolution

[Chi]

I'm not in the mood to write a lot on this, as I took debate in High School and wound up on the debate team because of my argument on this topic. o.o;

All I can say is, as far as animals not having consciences...



Notice how the dog isn't being scolded, but yet...the dog knows it did something wrong, and obviously feels bad about it, therefore having a conscience?
Am I right?

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Yes, they most likely have some sort of intelligent thought or thought that isn't simply instinctual.

[DarkByte]

I am for Creationism.
I totally agree with you fully.
We are way to complex

Except that our dna matches and apes y 95%. Are Apes 95% created by your god?

Also there are over 4000 religions in this world. If you was born in a muslim family you would be muslim. If you was born in ireland catholic ect.... Its how this crap works. Kids get brain washed into it at a young age by there parents ("God is cheaper than a babysitter"). Also you know what its like to not believe in god because you do not believe in 3999 of them. As an atheist I just believe in one less..

[Poem]

Apes are not 95% created by God. In fact, they are 100% created by God.

And no, I was not born in a Christian family, so your point is invalid. I sought Him myself.

[DarkByte]

ok..
As you have said he created and overlooks everything. Including myself. He made me a atheist why did he do this? Maybe he was just busy giving aids to children in africa that day....

He overlooks everyting.... You can't pick and choose.

If your god exist , he is incompetant. You should pray harder or something.

[Poem]

I can't say this is true for all creationists, but in my faith, He made people with free will. He does not force us to love Him, but gives us choice, so that love is more rewarding.
Like if your wife is forced to love you, not much reward in that, versus if she loved you voluntarily.


And also, we are unable to see the big scheme of things as we are on earth, but God sees the big picture. If bad things to us come in our day, He sees the purpose for those things, even if we do not.

[moonrash]

I can't say this is true for all creationists, but in my faith, He made people with free will. He does not force us to love Him, but gives us choice, so that love is more rewarding.
Like if your wife is forced to love you, not much reward in that, versus if she loved you voluntarily.


And also, we are unable to see the big scheme of things as we are on earth, but God sees the big picture. If bad things to us come in our day, He sees the purpose for those things, even if we do not.

How could he have made me with free will if I don't believe he exists...?

I just don't see the purpose of famine in Africa or all of the labour camps in North Korea.
You know, horrible worldly things like that.

Wouldn't god have prevented those things if he really cared?

[txtsd]

Wow. Everywhere I go, it's the same. Creationists throwing around the same old arguments that have been proven wrong time and again, and skeptics trying to show them how it really is but failing miserably because of how brainwashed the creationists are. All you people who vouch for reason, leave the people of faith alone. You know it's impossible to reason with someone who values faith as a virtue.

[moonrash]

Wow. Everywhere I go, it's the same. Creationists throwing around the same old arguments that have been proven wrong time and again, and skeptics trying to show them how it really is but failing miserably because of how brainwashed the creationists are. All you people who vouch for reason, leave the people of faith alone. You know it's impossible to reason with someone who values faith as a virtue.

B-but...

[txtsd]

B-but...

...and likewise. I didn't mean to side for them xD

[Chi]

I can't say this is true for all creationists, but in my faith, He made people with free will. He does not force us to love Him, but gives us choice, so that love is more rewarding.
Like if your wife is forced to love you, not much reward in that, versus if she loved you voluntarily.


And also, we are unable to see the big scheme of things as we are on earth, but God sees the big picture. If bad things to us come in our day, He sees the purpose for those things, even if we do not.

What created god?