Zimmerman Not Guilty

[Smookie]

LOL!!! He did the only thing he could have done? HOW ABOUT NOT CONFRONTING HIM AFTER CALLING THE COPS?! You officially have went off the deep end. He IS a racist. He did kill a 17 yr old kid. He got away with it.

Self-defense laws in the United States, particularly regarding justifiable homicide, vary by state. Florida law, as of 2005, includes a "stand your ground" provision, under which a person, who reasonably fears death or great bodily harm (the ordinary deadly self-defense requirement) is relieved of the common-law requirement that one first attempt to retreat, if one can safely do so, before using deadly force.[321][322] In almost all states, such laws exempt people in their own homes; Florida's version extends the no-retreat doctrine to vehicles and public places. In at least 17 states, including Florida, there is no duty to retreat before using force.[323][324] After the shooting, media reports had indicated that Zimmerman would most likely use the "Stand Your Ground" provision in Florida's self-defense law.

Zimmerman knew that he didn't have to retreat before using deadly force. Instead that bastard brought the action to himself. Approached a kid while having a gun on himself and .. (let me use a witness statement here since you think itll help your debate) --- Cutcher and her roommate heard the pair in their backyard and a "very young voice" whining, with no sounds of a fight. They heard a gunshot; the crying stopped immediately, and they saw Zimmerman on his knees straddling Martin on the ground.

So this so called 45 seconds of hard rock head banging wasn't anything like you think it is. Zimmerman was straddling Martin after he fucking shot the kid in the god dam chest.

You really have no idea what the word racist means.
That's okay though!

So, you're telling me that the father of Trayvon Martin was wrong?
You're saying that the father was wrong about Trayvon's voice?

Trayvon caused his own death.

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HE KILLED SOMEONE.

In pure self defense..
It wasn't Zimmerman's fault that Trayvon decided to jump him and smash his head into concrete repeatedly.

The very first thing he did wrong, and probably the most fatal mistake, was taking it upon himself to follow a kid without reason. Tried to act all high and mighty, as if he had some authority to follow a complete stranger around.

Are you really saying that seriously?
That is COMPLETELY legal to do.

So, you're telling me that his most fatal flaw was a legal one?

[Raj]

@(you need an account to see links) Again, this goes back to my earlier points. You don't just kill someone in self defense. You can hurt them back and such but killing is too far, which is why I disagree with you.

[Smookie]

@(you need an account to see links) Again, this goes back to my earlier points. You don't just kill someone in self defense. You can hurt them back and such but killing is too far, which is why I disagree with you.

Alright, then!
Tell me, what should have Zimmerman done?

[Raj]

@(you need an account to see links) Gee, I don't know, aim somewhere else?

[Allegra]

You really have no idea what the word racist means.
That's okay though!

So, you're telling me that the father of Trayvon Martin was wrong?
You're saying that the father was wrong about Trayvon's voice?

Trayvon caused his own death.

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In pure self defense..
It wasn't Zimmerman's fault that Trayvon decided to jump him and smash his head into concrete repeatedly.



Are you really saying that seriously?
That is COMPLETELY legal to do.

So, you're telling me that his most fatal flaw was a legal one?

Legal or not, it was NOT his place to do so. He had no authority or right. He obviously made the kid threatened and/or scared, as would be a normal reaction when pursued by a complete stranger. It seems entirely antagonistic to me and it ended up with a lost life.

[Scaletta01]

No it's not wrong to kill someone in self defense. Let's ask you a hypothetical question:

Say you were in your house and someone broke in, you have a gun in a holster on your side. That said person sees you and they grab you, throwing you down and threatening to kill you and your family. You have 1 chance to save yourself, then do you kill the man?

I know I would, no room for such a person anyways.

[Smookie]

@(you need an account to see links) Gee, I don't know, aim somewhere else?

That's the thing you don't get..
Martin was on top of Zimmerman when the gun shot went off.
Before that, he was getting his head smashed into concrete.
The gun that Zimmerman had did not have a safety.
With the position that Trayvon had Zimmerman in, there wasn't any room for Zimmerman to even aim.
That doesn't change the facts of what happened.

[Scaletta01]

That's the thing you don't get..
Martin was on top of Zimmerman when the gun shot went off.
Before that, he was getting his head smashed into concrete.
The gun that Zimmerman had did not have a safety.
With the position that Trayvon had Zimmerman in, there wasn't any room for Zimmerman to even aim.
That doesn't change the facts of what happened.

Along with this: You don't even have the time to, neither. 1 or none.

[Smookie]

Legal or not, it was NOT his place to do so. He had no authority or right. He obviously made the kid threatened and/or scared, as would be a normal reaction when pursued by a complete stranger. It seems entirely antagonistic to me and it ended up with a lost life.

So, a normal reaction is to attack Zimmerman and bash his head into the concrete?
A normal reaction is to do so for over 45 seconds?
A normal reaction is to not stop even when Zimmerman has screamed for help over 14 times?

[Raj]

No it's not wrong to kill someone in self defense. Let's ask you a hypothetical question:

Say you were in your house and someone broke in, you have a gun in a holster on your side. That said person sees you and they grab you, throwing you down and threatening to kill you and your family. You have 1 chance to save yourself, then do you kill the man?

I know I would, no room for such a person anyways.

Of course I would kill them. But is that even remotely the same situation? NO. If someone threatens to kill my family, I have zero patience with them. You're comparing apples to oranges here.

That's the thing you don't get..
Martin was on top of Zimmerman when the gun shot went off.
Before that, he was getting his head smashed into concrete.
The gun that Zimmerman had did not have a safety.
With the position that Trayvon had Zimmerman in, there wasn't any room for Zimmerman to even aim.
That doesn't change the facts of what happened.

Where did you hear that Martin was on top of Zimmerman when the gunshot went off? Source please? I haven't heard this information previously.