Gun Law in America

[Diablos]

So given the recent events in Vegas we were having a discussion in work about the Gun law in the US. Now I'm based in the UK so to us the right to own a gun is not one I've ever known.

I'm curious as to how many people believe the right to own such weapons should remain in force. If you believe you should have this right then can I ask why?

Do you think Trump will do anything about it?

I suppose one difficulty is if he did ban it then you run the risk of having a bunch of people give their weapons in and then some keeping their's illegally... And then how would you defend yourself against those people...

Equally guns are expensive, will Trump have some sort of compensation for giving a weapon in?

On the flip side even so would it not prevent incidents like Vegas?

[EvolutionZzZ]

People find a way. I don't think banning weapons is the way to go. HOWEVER, I do believe we should ban automatic weapons COMPLETELY. Some states its legal to carry an Automatic Rifle... WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU NEED THAT lol

[varney]

I live in Brazil and here we have gun control. If you need guns to defend yourself and you want a legal gun you'll have to pay a lot of money - we already pay a lot of taxes and get nothing in return - such as public safety. The only people that own guns here are the bad guys. Banning doesn't work, it will simply desarm the good guys, making it easier for the bad guys to run free Please USA, don't follow Brazil's example.

[Northern]

I suppose one difficulty is if he did ban it then you run the risk of having a bunch of people give their weapons in and then some keeping their's illegally... And then how would you defend yourself against those people...

Equally guns are expensive, will Trump have some sort of compensation for giving a weapon in?

On the flip side even so would it not prevent incidents like Vegas?

I don't live in USA either. It's true that no guns means less deaths due to gun violence. But guaranteed there would be so much backlash, and I doubt many people would give up their guns. I just don't think its possible :/.

Also if USA ever somehow got invaded, or the government got out of control etc (I know I'm reaching here) people would have their own means of defending themselves.

Either way I think there is no easy solution to this sort of problem. There will always be that 1 psychopath with no political/religious motive only killing for the bloodlust/fame. Terrorism is a whole other topic which I do believe can be more controlled. Unfortunately if its not gun violence it'll be homemade bombs, cars/trucks plowing through people, knives, acid etc. :/. Those acid attacks scare me the most tbh.

[Aura]

There is a dire need of more regulations to be placed. This is obvious by the sheer amount of terrorism and killing that has been allowed to happen in America. After Sandyhook, however, I've lost much faith in America to change their regulations and enforce tighter controls.

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[Mama Bear]

I was amazed when I read that the bill to make people whose mental illness was so severe they were only disability payments had been revoked.
I know that Australia is often used as the example in this discussion. In the early late 80s- early 90s, we had a couple of spree killings with guns. Then, in 1996 we had the Port Arthur Massacre, in which 35 were killed. In response to that, the government tightened gun regulations. Since then, we've had a couple of sieges and family-killings, but nothing as severe or frequent. Growing up, I didn't see guns, nor feel comfortable being around them. When I moved out to a more rural area, it was a bit of a culture shock that people had guns, but they went pig and roo hunting. It's not like our country just doesn't have them anymore, it's just more limited.
I don't believe that automatic weapons have a legitimate place with civilians. I don't believe that semi-automatic weapons with magazines of more than a few rounds do either. Moreover, it shouldn't be possible to 'convert' guns with bumpers or anything like that. That's not needed.

[bbuilder]

The most surprising thing is just how little oversight there is for people buying guns. Canada and Iceland for example also let people buy guns but there you have to get a license which in Canada I know involves a 2 day course and a background check. In iceland they even have environmental courses which they have to take before they get a gun.

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[Northern]

The most surprising thing is just how little oversight there is for people buying guns. Canada and Iceland for example also let people buy guns but there you have to get a license which in Canada I know involves a 2 day course and a background check. In iceland they even have environmental courses which they have to take before they get a gun.

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I watched a video about the background check in Canada. Supposedly if your religion says you must cover your face you not required by Canadian law to have to show your face for the photo ID when acquiring a gun. Again I don't know how "accurate" this information is, so take it with a grain of salt. But if that's true that is terrifying.

[bbuilder]

I watched a video about the background check in Canada. Supposedly if your religion says you must cover your face you not required by Canadian law to have to show your face for the photo ID when acquiring a gun. Again I don't know how "accurate" this information is, so take it with a grain of salt. But if that's true that is terrifying.

Hmm I know that people are allowed to wear turbans for religious reasons on government ID, but I think full face cover is not allowed. On the website for gun license I don't even see religious exceptions as an option! I'd be interested to watch that video if you have a link

[Northern]

Hmm I know that people are allowed to wear turbans for religious reasons on government ID, but I think full face cover is not allowed. On the website for gun license I don't even see religious exceptions as an option! I'd be interested to watch that video if you have a link

I might of got some of the information wrong, I haven't watched the video since it was released. It seems to have something to do with renewing your license or being exempt from having to have photo ID, I'm not that familiar with how the whole process works in order to get a gun. Here it is regardless if it's accurate or not:

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I'm not subscribed to Rebel anymore or certain news outlets because I don't want to become extremely biased or locked in some echo chamber. But they have done some interesting investigating about these sort of things or the lack of border control etc.