I_royalty_I (02-20-2017)
I am from a very chauvinist culture where attractive women are seen as a limited commodity to be fought overOriginally Posted by Naked Gamer
Even though I grew up somewhere else, this internal hatred of that aspect of my motherland's culture makes me hesitant to do something so rooted in chauvinism.
I actually make a point of never paying for the first date. I will always ask to split the bill. Then, I can see if the girl is the type of person who expects the man to pay. There are certain character traits I find consistent in women who get angry or snarky when I don't pay, and I don't like it. Reminds me too much of the stereotypical entitled modern girl back home >.>
Worked out pretty well for me. This ends up letting me sift through and find the independent, strong, forward-thinking women. There was, however, one woman who got salty when I asked for a bill split because she was the one who asked me out and therefore wanted to pay O.o Ironically she is from the same culture as me, so in the end she's still different from that hated stereotype
I_royalty_I (02-20-2017)
When I go on dates we never pay for anything because we're both women.
By boyfriend and I always pay for our own food, partially because he's still in undergrad and doesn't have a job, and I'm in law school and am living off of loans, but I would never expect him to pay for my meal or vice versa - and some girls I know get really stand-offish about that, which I find rather repulsive. No one should be expected to pay for a meal based on gender, if anything, the person that initiates the dinner should be responsible for at least offering, but even then I'd just rather pay for myself.
minzart (02-20-2017)
I think at first it's courteous for the guy to offer if he's the one who initiated the date, but after awhile it just makes sense (to me) for each person to pay for him/herself. I don't believe entering a relationship/courtship should entail becoming financially responsible for another person, but that's just my opinion
personally, i don't mind either way? unless the guy insists to be gentlemanly and all ^-^ i'd want to pay on the next date though so i don't blow a hole in his wallet.
( i killed the king of deceit. now i sleep in anarchy. )
I'd say yes but it depends on the situation? Like if he's going through a tight spot then obviously not
I think whoever initiates the date should pay. If we agree to just go out to eat or something I'll pay for my own, but I don't really put up too much of a fight if someone offers to pay for me. ;P
Maelstra(05-02-2017)
I think it originated from guys wanting to impress girls and show girls they are dominant and can take care of them.
Same with putting a woman on a pedestal it's by a guys choice to impress and woo a female.
Unfortunately so much hooting and hollering because being put on a pedestal and looked after apparently sucks. So now chivalry is dead, we successfully killed it.
So to answer, if it's the first date and the guy wants to impress her and show her he can take care of her because he's interested. Then yes any half decent guy will pay, not because he feels obligated to.
My girlfriend pays for all of the meals when we go out. She's the bread winner by far and doesn't mind. I do my part with helping out with the kids and cleaning and stuff.
It originated from a time when it was necessary because women couldn't have bank accounts or own assets lmao. Same thing with putting women on a pedestal; it was unrelated to wooing a woman, you put a woman on a pedestal because she was literally property.
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