Suicide : is it ever justifiable?

[Slasher]

Do you agree that suicide can ever be a justifiable option?

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In my opinion, suicide is a terrible act. I don't think it is either courageous or cowardly to want an end to pain: I don't think that a lot of people could want their life to stop if they are happy.

[I_royalty_I]

I don't think it could be described as courageous no matter how you look at it.
I could see it being cowardly in the sense that you gave up on the world, you gave up on yourself, and are taking the easy way out.

But with that said, sometimes the "easy way out", is really the hard way out; sometimes it might seem like it's the only way out.

If you are contemplating suicide then there are definitely some underlying problems that you should really open up and talk with people about. Maybe you think nobody cares, because nobody really knows.

I'm not really sure what the deal is with all the suicide in the news lately. I mean, yeah I can definitely understand all the pain that people are subjected to, but if you look on the other side of that coin, there are an equal amount of people on your side who are trying to help you out; you just have to listen and filter out all the hatred. =\

[Bailey]

Speaking from experience my uncle was getting divorced and rather than live he jumped out of my aunts vehicle while driving over a bridge in new orleans and jumped off. My father was never the same after that. I don't think most people realize that it may end their suffering by ending their life but it is destroying everyone else's around you. I think it is a cowards way out. I have suffered with depression for many years and never once have i thought about suicide because I would never do that to the people that I love and care about. There are people who can help, you are never alone and there is ALWAYS someone that has it worst than you.
On another note, my sister about 2 years ago tried to kill herself by swallowing a bottle of tylenol pm over a boy who I shit you not "while he was high on mushrooms saw the woman of his dreams and it wasn't my sister" so he broke up with her and she couldn't live anymore, needless to say the guy found out about it and called the police and they found her in time but she did a lot of damage to her liver and once she got help she is thankful everyday she is alive and has said on numerous occasions how stupid it was what she tried to do. so before you go down that road, get help, you never know and it can't hurt to try.

[Bettser]

To be honest, this board shouldn't even be a discussion. Its not right for a forum. Im saying this because some people may have personal feelings about, or been greatly affected by it.

I know someone who took their life because they indeed had no options left, and nothing else was working (schizophrenia). I don't think a sane person would take their life if they felt like they had options left.

[Slasher]

To be honest, this board shouldn't even be a discussion. Its not right for a forum. Im saying this because some people may have personal feelings about, or been greatly affected by it.

I know someone who took their life because they indeed had no options left, and nothing else was working (schizophrenia). I don't think a sane person would take their life if they felt like they had options left.

I don't know. Many debates here can affect a lot of people anywhere. Like abortion, gay marriage, death sentence, euthanasia... Some people here are gay and are very ashamed that some others are agains't them getting married or having children.

Every people can have their point of view about suicide. We can't just say we'll not talk about anything that could affect people. Someone could find a forum talking about suicide and decide or not to read it.

[Bettser]

I don't know. Many debates here can affect a lot of people anywhere. Like abortion, gay marriage, death sentence, euthanasia... Some people here are gay and are very ashamed that some others are agains't them getting married or having children.

Every people can have their point of view about suicide. We can't just say we'll not talk about anything that could affect people. Someone could find a forum talking about suicide and decide or not to read it.

I know. I dont expect anything to be done. Just giving my opinion on it.

[janikanicolepi]

I know this is some what off topic, but I will eventually tie it back to why I believe suicide can be "right" ....under certain condition.

It is true that if a person is healthy (whether it's physical or mental), the idea of suicide should never incur in their mind. However, if the person has been diagnose as terminally ill (incurable), they should be granted the right for assisting suicide. However if a person is only considering suicide because something such as a criticism comment from their peers then they shouldn't.

My aunt who was passed away from pancreatic cancer actually requested an "assist" suicide of injection from the hospital and was denied. She had chemo and radiation treatment, but it didn't work. The pain and suffering that she went through, the vomiting, and nausea was unbearable....and this is word coming from a third party perspective. Every time I visit her, she was in constant agony. I know this is going to sound unrealistic, but I believe the hospital denied her right to suicide, so they can keep billing her. She passed away uncomfortably, and left a heavy medical bill for my cousin, who recently filed for a medical bankruptcy.

My close friend who has severe anxiety issues (Often known as a panic attack; condition like heavy breath, aura, delusion, etc) and was on multiple psych medications includes (topamax, xanax, and couple more which I can't remember off the top of my head) When she was on these medication, it kept her calm, and in check. Before she was diagnose, she would often tell me she has nausea, stomach cramps, migraine, and fear that people are chasing her even though she is in a study room. She also had suicidal thoughts, but with the medications, major of these psychological problems were surpress, but there are still the side effect from the drug. I believe she shouldn't suicide, but require psychological counseling but also a good friend who is willing to lend her an ear to listen to her problems. Under a very server case where the condition shouldn't be solve, she should be granted the right to assist suicide.

If people who are consider attempting suicide because of verbal criticism from their peers or other, then I don't believe they should suicide. We all face certain criticism in our lives, but it is how we handle, and dealt with the criticism ultimately decides who we are.

[Inq]

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My first reaction was the same. However, there is no harm in debating the subject, as long as the discussion is kept appropiate. I'm keeping a close eye on this thread, all the same.

Just a message to everyone: please PM me if you have any personal concerns about anything that is discussed here. That goes for anything in the Debate Zone, not limited to this thread.

Edit: Cleaned up the thread title and original statement for due appropriateness. This is a sensitive subject, so please treat it in a sensitive manner.

[Kristin]

A good friend and colleague of mine committed suicide almost 3 years ago. It was absolutely devastating, not only for me but for his other friends and family. Ever since I've had a strong view against suicide.

I believe that suicide is the absolute most selfish thing someone could ever do. There are so many options and there is always help you can get! I don't think a lot of people realize that suicide hurts everyone around you, especially your family. It always makes me so sad when I hear of someone committing suicide. And I despise bullies for driving so many young kids to suicide more than ever lately.

[Slasher]

A good friend and colleague of mine committed suicide almost 3 years ago. It was absolutely devastating, not only for me but for his other friends and family. Ever since I've had a strong view against suicide.

I believe that suicide is the absolute most selfish thing someone could ever do. There are so many options and there is always help you can get! I don't think a lot of people realize that suicide hurts everyone around you, especially your family. It always makes me so sad when I hear of someone committing suicide. And I despise bullies for driving so many young kids to suicide more than ever lately.

I'm very sorry for your lost.

I agree that suicide is one of the most selfish thing that you can do. I'm more thinking about how the person who commit suicide feels. Who never ever just had a small thought about ending his life? When pain is so hard you can't think about anything else. YES someone would always find you an arguement about how any options could be better. But, when someone suicide, it's because they didn't choose to wait to see, to try. It's because this was enough. I thought many times about ending my life, when I went through hard time. I never really tryed to kill myself. During certain years, I wasn't thinking about my family, friends and all persons that could be affected by my death. My only thoughts were about myselfpain.

Strangly, I on day dreamed about my little brother commiting suicide. Then I really realized how could my absence could affect people close to me and even people just around. But maybe some people doesn't have anything left. Or in many case they THINK that nobody cares about them. They think talking to people won't help.

I'm sure one day I'll think about suicide again. I will probably see the other options, but not really want to go for them.

I totally understand why anyone can be against suicide, but I can maybe see the point of view of people who did choose to end their live.

And I didn't meant to hurt anyone by my debate's title. I didn't meant to be rude or to demean this act. Sorry if you felt attacked.