State of the union address

[I_royalty_I]

Anybody else watching this? I'm already getting pissed off at this dumb ass...

The deficit cut in half? Uhmm.. wtf no its not
Highest graduation rates in high schools... um not, more like lowered standards
The us economy is in better shape than china... are you fucking high, they practically own us lol

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Does nobody follow politics? Damn, I wanted to hear what people thought and see if I'm the only one who wants to punch a wall x.x

[Lindsay]

I know how to fix holes in the walls now..
I got chu.

Go on wit yo bad self.

[Kenshin]

I'm sorry the guy has had his head up his ass ever since election.

Granted he had a lot put on his plate when he was elected but the guy has been running around with his head cut off ever since he stepped into office.

Borrow borrow borrow solves everything. That's why our economy even though it's recovering slowly but surely is still shit.

And yes I agree with you royalty. China has us bent over right now waiting to ram us a good one with how much money we owe them.

[I_royalty_I]

I swear, if they end up granting legal status to the 11million (11,000,000~~~!!!!!!) people, that's gonna be another nail in the coffin for our economy.
And him saying that if congress won't help him, he will use executive orders to get done what he wants to get done. I guess he can just do whatever he wants whenever he wants.
It's like he wants to ruin the country, it's incredible.

[Katie]

And him saying that if congress won't help him, he will use executive orders to get done what he wants to get done. I guess he can just do whatever he wants whenever he wants.
It's like he wants to ruin the country, it's incredible.

Considering we've had literally the least productive Congress in the history of the United States, I think it's a no brainer that he should step in so that the shit we're all complaining about can get fixed. And the country was in a shit spiral before he ever showed up. Shit can't be fixed if he continues to be denied the means to do so.

3. Pres Obama spearheaded The Affordable Care Act -- that makes him a hero in my book any day.

Also this. If it wasn't for him, I would be looking at paying a $160k medical bill instead of $3k because I'm still covered by my parents medical insurance. Actually, with follow up visits and all the other stuff, I'd probably be looking at closer to $200k+. I have a college degree. I have 2 jobs. I wasn't getting insurance coverage from either job before the ACA. Now I don't have to worry about it for another year, and when I DO have to worry about it, I won't be SOL because now I have options.

I haven't watched the SotU (DVRing that shit), so I'll repost with thoughts later, but I HAD to say something.

[I_royalty_I]

Considering we've had literally the least productive Congress in the history of the United States, I think it's a no brainer that he should step in so that the shit we're all complaining about can get fixed. And the country was in a shit spiral before he ever showed up. Shit can't be fixed if he continues to be denied the means to do so.




Also this. If it wasn't for him, I would be looking at paying a $160k medical bill instead of $3k because I'm still covered by my parents medical insurance. Actually, with follow up visits and all the other stuff, I'd probably be looking at closer to $200k+. I have a college degree. I have 2 jobs. I wasn't getting insurance coverage from either job before the ACA. Now I don't have to worry about it for another year, and when I DO have to worry about it, I won't be SOL because now I have options.

I haven't watched the SotU (DVRing that shit), so I'll repost with thoughts later, but I HAD to say something.

Well the point I was making is that he doesn't care about working with congress, he just wants to push through what he wants. We might as well make him king! There is checks and balances for a reason. He already said that he can't really do anything TOO major with his executive orders, but just that he is trying to go around everyone. He's already done quite a few executive orders.

In my opinion, he tried too hard to put his name on "Obamacare". They didn't take the time to set anything up properly either. There were issues from the start, more people lost coverage than got coverage, it was just one giant clusterfuck. And while I'm all for more people getting better care, but at what cost? Because while it might have only cost 3k for you, somebody, somewhere, somehow is going to be paying for that for you; probably by having their own plans hiked up quite a bit. I'm not so much a fan of that. I think the govt just need to buckle down and stop spending money needlessly. We give TONS of aid to other countries, countries that hate us. Why? We could be using that to help our own people.
idk, I feel like I'm just rambling. I'm just sad that our generation is going to inherit the most fucked up country ever.

[Katie]

Well the point I was making is that he doesn't care about working with congress, he just wants to push through what he wants. We might as well make him king! There is checks and balances for a reason. He already said that he can't really do anything TOO major with his executive orders, but just that he is trying to go around everyone. He's already done quite a few executive orders.

In my opinion, he tried too hard to put his name on "Obamacare". They didn't take the time to set anything up properly either. There were issues from the start, more people lost coverage than got coverage, it was just one giant clusterfuck. And while I'm all for more people getting better care, but at what cost? Because while it might have only cost 3k for you, somebody, somewhere, somehow is going to be paying for that for you; probably by having their own plans hiked up quite a bit. I'm not so much a fan of that. I think the govt just need to buckle down and stop spending money needlessly. We give TONS of aid to other countries, countries that hate us. Why? We could be using that to help our own people.
idk, I feel like I'm just rambling. I'm just sad that our generation is going to inherit the most fucked up country ever.

I truly believe he would work with Congress if Congress would work with him. But when the Senate Minority Leader publicly states that their entire purpose is to make sure you're a one term president, there's not much that you can do. The shit that Congress has pulled makes me wonder where the fuck THEIR checks and balances are. You talk about spending too much money, I personally think that we should stop paying Congress until they do their fucking jobs and pass more than 65 bills in a year. That's goddamn ridiculous.

And Obama was not the first to use the term Obamacare. In fact, Mitt Romney used the term Obamacare in 2007. And it was used as a pejorative statement. So it makes sense to me that one tactic would be to reclaim the word and attempt to take the negative connotation out of it.

My family's insurance changed. We changed doctor's. I can't see the doctor's that operated on me because they're not covered under my new insurance. We have to pay the first $6,000 of medical bills out of pocket. But I would GLADLY pay more money out of pocket if it means that more people get insurance, honestly. I agree that the ACA is flawed. Absolutely. But I think that it's much better than what we had. I personally don't think that our health system is socialist enough. I think that it's absolutely absurd that we're basically the only developed nation that doesn't have universal healthcare.

And I think the whole "help our people first" thing is bullshit (sorry). People need to stop thinking that just because their parents happened to bump genitals in the USA means that they're better than everyone else and deserve help more than everyone else. Just because some governments are dicks towards the States (usually rightly so because the States were dicks first) doesn't mean that their people are and deserve to be punished.


Also, sorry. Politics major up in this bitch.

[Raj]

Highest graduation rates in high schools... um not, more like lowered standards

"No Child Left Behind"? More like "No Child Gets Ahead"

[Naomi]

1. "No Child Left Behind" was proposed/passed by Bush, not President Obama. (It sucks.)

2. Since President Obama took office in 2009, employment rates have been steadily decreasing.

3. Pres Obama spearheaded The Affordable Care Act -- that makes him a hero in my book any day.

Ok I'll stop there. Agree to disagree?

[Raj]

1. "No Child Left Behind" was proposed/passed by Bush, not President Obama. (It sucks.)

still hate the idea of it, plus its not like education has gotten much better under obama