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    Organ Donation

    What started off as a simple question in my biology homework has otherwise consistently come up as a topic of great interest to me.

    Should everybody be an organ donor when they die?

    Personally, I believe it should be an opt-out system rather than an opt-in
    Meaning that by default, everybody is eligible to become an organ donor after their death is confirmed, but this can be avoided by going out and opting out of it yourself.
    In essence this is the opposite of the system we have today

    What do you think? If you have any religious views, how does this pose a problem to your religion/culture?
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    i can be an organ donor for ya, mint.




    but honestly, i'm inclined to agree with you. my religion (with roots in hinduism, islam, buddhism and animism) doesn't say anything against it specifically, and in fact even encourages it. giving your body to help others after you have returned to your energy form is hella good karma (is it the same word in english oops), i think? and it's helping others in general ya know, being subservient to your fellow man. seems like a good deal for me.

    i can't understand why not someone would do this? besides maybe a religion thing that says that the body must be complete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fruitbat View Post
    i can be an organ donor for ya, mint.




    but honestly, i'm inclined to agree with you. my religion (with roots in hinduism, islam, buddhism and animism) doesn't say anything against it specifically, and in fact even encourages it. giving your body to help others after you have returned to your energy form is hella good kharma, i think? and it's helping others in general ya know, being subservient to your fellow man. seems like a good deal for me.

    i can't understand why not someone would do this? besides maybe a religion thing that says that the body must be complete.
    In that case, give me your ta-tas if you know what I mean..


    That was along my line of thinking as well.

    However, just to play the devil's advocate, I've been thinking about a certain issue that could potentially undermine this side of the argument.

    Suppose a secret rapist or whatever needs a new liver, and his family has requested a transplant. They have the money to pay for it and everything.
    This new system where organs are at many doctors' fingertips would mean this guy would continue to live and terrorize others.

    I feel that trying to come up with strict rules on who is deserving of an organ would be too complicated in the long run.

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    Fundamentally, your idea of "opt-out" is better and more efficient, so why hasn't it been proposed for legislation?

    Because society is not ready to accept it.

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    As it stands, civilization is too focused on liberalism and individualism - particularly in democratic nations.

    People don't like the idea of being spoken for or used as tools (by default).

    There would be a lot of backlash from citizens if they heard their own bodies were being used by anyone other than themselves, even if a simple "opt-out" is readily available.

    It's the same line of thinking as to why we complain why nothing gets done by the government these days and they're spinning around in their chairs all day.
    We aim for conformity and peace; thus the government must appease the majority of us by not trying to stir something up.
    Hence the "check and balances" we have in place to safeguard everyone's opinions/interests, at the cost of time, money, and often lack of resolution.

    Adding pressure to this are all those hippie "rights" groups left and right, whistleblowing and riots. But it's what we pay for in choosing to live in left-wing societies:

    We sacrifice decisiveness for freedom.

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    But no doubt your idea would be more likely to happen in collective governments such as Communism, if anything however. They whip their people and get shit done, son!
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    I just gave this a thought and...

    I think opting out should not be an option. Why? Are you going to be coming back from death?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infamous Joe View Post
    I just gave this a thought and...

    I think opting out should not be an option. Why? Are you going to be coming back from death?
    No lol

    I don't think I made this clear.

    I meant by opting out is that from birth, you as an individual are subjected to organ donation at the time of your death, whenever that may be.
    However, your parents/guardian/whoever is in charge can choose to just opt you out or something.
    There's still a choice, but the default is that you are an organ donor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infamous Joe View Post
    I just gave this a thought and...

    I think opting out should not be an option. Why? Are you going to be coming back from death?
    ahh nothing is coming off the top of my head but i think that some of the burial procedures for certain religions dictate that the whole body must be entombed/cremated. i mean to be respectful to them i can understanding opt-out.

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    You guy's didn't get Joe's post at all.. lol

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    I'm just going to throw out that there are medical reasons why someone can't be an organ donor.
    They may not state that it's a medical reason for their own privacy.
    My parents are both considered to be hepatitis carriers, and so they have chosen not to be organ donors because of that.

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    I'm a nontheist so I have no religious objections.
    When I'm dead, they can take every cell in my body if they want.

    I'm dead, don't need them anymore.
    AINT GOT NO MEAT SAC TO HOLD ME BACK

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