Arc's Thread of Buying

[Bot]

Inb4 chargebacks. >_>

Why jump to conclusions? Just get Arc to pay with MP, WU or LR.

[Arc]

Why would I even do that? I just want pixels is that so hard? apparently people don't know when to stop posting/commenting basically the same thing if it is everyone's opinion. I'm here to buy things and that is all, If i would want to scam someone why would I do it like this lol? The point of not going first is so I don't get burnt.

I never said I was clever, I never said I was joking , If I was joking I would hope it would have included something actually with a bit of humor. If you don't like my comments, then don't make a retort. If an opinion is the cause of your perturbation then perhaps you should just stop reading, and leave my board I assure you I'm not being facetious .

No idea what MP, WU or LR is xP I've done a trade that involved Runescape gold once, and it ended up with me being 40$ out =C if it is reasonable I would be willing to try. Never hurts to try, until I loose money xP

[Bot]

Why would I even do that? I just want pixels is that so hard? apparently people don't know when to stop posting/commenting basically the same thing if it is everyone's opinion. I'm here to buy things and that is all, If i would want to scam someone why would I do it like this lol? The point of not going first is so I don't get burnt.

I never said I was clever, I never said I was joking , If I was joking I would hope it would have included something actually with a bit of humor. If you don't like my comments, then don't make a retort. If an opinion is the cause of your perturbation then perhaps you should just stop reading, and leave my board I assure you I'm not being facetious .

No idea what MP, WU or LR is xP I've done a trade that involved Runescape gold once, and it ended up with me being 40$ out =C if it is reasonable I would be willing to try. Never hurts to try, until I loose money xP

MoneyPak is basically a pre-paid cash card that you can redeem on PayPal, WU stands for western union, and LR stands for liberty reserve.

[Arc]

Oh I see I would not mind using, but I would have to feel very safe , and very comfortable with the trade ;D

But why would I charge back if what I asked for was provided to me? Are honest people really that hard to find ?

[I_royalty_I]

Are honest people really that hard to find ?

You seem to think so Ms "I am adamant about not going first".

[goodieboy]

As someone new to the site, you definitely are entitled to your opinion and your vehement request of a MM. Fact is you're trying to do business with Andrew where any transaction less than $100 is considered peanuts, it's just not worth his time. I'm sure another seller who is willing to do small businesses will be willing to strike a deal with you.

And really, a mod+MM status is really reputable, just saying.

[Drizzy]

Just dropping into say, I've been selling/dealing with Arc on other forums for a while.
Im not agreeing with her demand that buyer go first, especially Andrew who not only is mod but OMM as well, but she's been like this since for months now after being scammed a few times. Its sketchy to some but ive just gotten used to it lol
If chargebacks/scams occur I will personally reimburse the seller - just don't go over 20bucks lol

Are honest people really that hard to find ?

Isn't that the very point thats stopping you going first?
Though I will say that there are hardly any scammers here, this forum is much better moderated than the other(s) where you did get scammed.

[Arc]

You seem to think so Ms "I am adamant about not going first".

Please let me correct you it is Mrs. ^_^ I'm not widowed nor am I unmarried. However I guess I could forgive it since it is questionable whether or not I'm married.

I'm distrusting not dishonest , I have distrust because I have lost money. Too much money I would think. I have lost trust in giving money to a seller before I receive my item, since they have dishonestly scammed me ;o.

Just dropping into say, I've been selling/dealing with Arc on other forums for a while.
Im not agreeing with her demand that buyer go first, especially Andrew who not only is mod but OMM as well, but she's been like this since for months now after being scammed a few times. Its sketchy to some but ive just gotten used to it lol
If chargebacks/scams occur I will personally reimburse the seller - just don't go over 20bucks lol




Isn't that the very point thats stopping you going first?
Though I will say that there are hardly any scammers here, this forum is much better moderated than the other(s) where you did get scammed.

You know the hell I have gone through on those other sights and you know the little fraction of money I have lost. xP I would have rather liked to switch to Clraik as my main forum for business but ;D I don't think I will xP. Just not worth the risk, even if Clraik is monitored more properly than other forums, there is always a risk that is what is stopping me I have distrust. I'm opinionated and stubborn they will learn ;D xP

Lol and speaking of chargebacks I never even charged back that one girl -_- and she seriously screwed me over xP

[aplant92]

just on the topic of distrust, I can completely understand where Arc is coming from, having previously lost a SUAP, i know the burning rage that comes with giving a user an item, then being told they "never received it" when you know thats a f****** lie, and then having absolutely nothing to show for all your hard work.
However, despite my now very cautious attitude to everyone, I would never ever distrust a moderator AND mm of such a site. *********** seems to have gone to s*** and their moderators don't really seem to show concern, but clraik i believe, holds a certain reputation amongst like-minded sites, and if you can trust anyone, it would be a mod from clraik (not sucking up, just sharing my experiences to add to the discussion!)

[Mod]

If you don't like my comments, then don't make a retort. If an opinion is the cause of your perturbation then perhaps you should just stop reading, and leave my board I assure you I'm not being facetious .

This girl's serious, she's bustin' out the big guns words now,

"You mad bro? STFU. I rub you wrong? GTFO. I swear on muh mama's grave!" <- What I got.

But why would I charge back if what I asked for was provided to me? Are honest people really that hard to find ?

Because CBs are the most common buyer scam here, sellers have been out hundreds (a couple I know even $x,xxx), some forced to quit selling, limited PayPals, even credit hits and debt.
A scam victim isn't only restricted to the buyer; while you are untrusting of others here, they are of you too, particularly of your status and limited history (here).

There are honest people abound here, you're just shutting them out from your own paranoia.
I think the more dishonest people are the ones willing to go first vs. you; they may have gained what they're selling illegitimately and want to unload asap before they're frozen and lose it all. If they get you in time, then TNT will too and you'll be iced.

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Sellers that have been around cK for a while, with lots of feedback and history are the way to go.
They have nothing to gain by scamming, but more to lose.
If they did get caught, a dispute would be opened and they would be permabanned, costing them business (which is xxx to x,xxx a month for these reputable sellers).
You can argue they'll just continue on another forum, but cK is the premier Neopets marketplace as it stands. Not a good way to go out for the scammer-seller.

Mods and MMs are not above it all that can outmuscle a 'newbie' status member. Firstly, they were selected from their history on cK, selling/buying reputation, and finally perceived as honest people.
They can and still have been banned without bias (eg. member -> Possible).
If you're still skeptical of a reputable seller and want to sack him/her, then keep all PMs, make screenies, save convos, and go slowly.

+you're only looking for GBCs. What's that, a few dollars? Would a seller really take a risk on small stuff like that, when they sell stuff like SuAPs and WoDFs too?
You can view someone's iTrader by that clickable number in their userinfo box to the left.

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The shitstorm on this thread with all of @(you need an account to see links)'s supporters jumping in the ring isn't entirely irrational.
Just look at him; he's everything you expect of a trusted member here that offers what you're asking, but you still say no.
It's natural, it's normal. Anyone would be offended and see this as a slap in the face if they were still rejected with allusion they are dishonest.
You should evaluate where you stand in all of this;
if you were him, or a cK regular that hopped in on this, seeing a newcomer call the shots and declining help of *trusted* member wouldn't stir you at all?

Yeah, money is more important than pixels, like you say. But players here also value pixels and invest in them with their own money.
So while you may lose money in a Neo-scam, sellers will too when they lose pixels they could otherwise sell to another for money.

You may have been out $40 from RS Gold once, but that was then, this is now, with different people.
I don't know if whomever offered to sell you the RSg was as reputable as I_Royalty_I or just a rando, but it shouldn't deter you and label all of us as shady people because of it.

Ultimately, I respect your decision in "you go first or gtfo" - it's your prerogative. Just be mindful of the situation and people in it;
sometimes you have to be flexible to get what you want - staying rigid will get you nowhere, especially in the face of reason.

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-This message may have sounded aggressive towards you, but I assure you I wasn't bashing.
I don't have a bias here (despite how I sound), I'm just putting out my thoughts on the matter and what's been said so far.