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    Some Miss Universe Canada supporters complain of transgender spotlight

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    WTF?

    How does a man enter a beauty contest for women?

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    Looks a bit like Phoebe from Friends.

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    She is transgender.

    She was male due to the fact she has/had a penis and her chromosome combination is XY.

    Psychologically she was a female since birth (mentally and neurological structure) and now her hormones and body reflect that.

    Who are you to judge what is a woman and what is a man? Who cares if she enters the beauty pageant? She's a decent looking person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi View Post
    She is transgender.

    She was male due to the fact she has/had a penis and her chromosome combination is XY.

    Psychologically she was a female since birth (mentally and neurological structure) and now her hormones and body reflect that.

    Who are you to judge what is a woman and what is a man? Who cares if she enters the beauty pageant? She's a decent looking person.
    He*

    XY chromosomes----------> HE is STILL a MAN.

    Therefore he cannot/shouldn't have entered.

    ---------- Post added at 06:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:46 PM ----------

    What would you do if you picked this person up in a bar and he didn't tell you he was man?

    D:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronith View Post
    He*

    XY chromosomes----------> HE is STILL a MAN.

    Therefore he cannot/shouldn't have entered.

    ---------- Post added at 06:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:46 PM ----------

    What would you do if you picked this person up in a bar and he didn't tell you he was man?

    D:
    Then you tell him/her that you aren't interested.
    You don't have to be a fucking ass about it.

    Have you ever seen America's Next Top Model.
    A show where the contestants are FEMALE.
    But on cycle 11, a model named Isis King, a transgender model beat out 4 other girls before she was sent home. ((you need an account to see links)).
    Tyra Banks personally wanted her on this show.
    Don't be a egocentric male here Ronith.

    Just because someone was born a male/female, doesn't make them one. Your mentality also has to go with it.

    Here are some pictures of Isis btw.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin. View Post
    Then you tell him/her that you aren't interested.
    You don't have to be a fucking ass about it.

    Have you ever seen America's Next Top Model.
    A show where the contestants are FEMALE.
    But on cycle 11, a model named Isis King, a transgender model beat out 4 other girls before she was sent home. ((you need an account to see links)).
    Tyra Banks personally wanted her on this show.
    Don't be a egocentric male here Ronith.

    Just because someone was born a male/female, doesn't make them one. Your mentality also has to go with it.

    Here are some pictures of Isis btw.

    I am not being an asshole. Some transsexuals lie that they are woman and leave out the fact that they are a man. Leading those men on, which is morally and ethically wrong.

    I don't give a shit if that other person was in America's Next Top Model. This contest is for women. ....women......Not men. He was born a man, and all the surgery in the world will not change that,

    ---------- Post added at 09:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:06 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Chi View Post

    All genitalia development starts out the same. You can barely notice the difference. Without quoting me try and figure out which is which ;/

    No She is not a man. She is whatever she wants to be. Furthermore there should be no differences between roles that 'men' and 'women' play.
    Like I said before, psychologically she was always a woman, now her body reflects that. How hard is that to understand?

    Hypothetically speaking, if I met someone at a bar (and furthered our relationship to a stage where the following would be important >.>) that had a gender change I'd accept them for who they are however I'd express my concerns about child birth (being both women) or and the prospect adopting children in general (being a mother is something that I want to do). Love is love, and it shouldn't be based on if they have a penis or a vagina ;/ There are deeper aspects that I take into account than physiology.

    I feel sorry for your children, if they ever have the preference for the same sex or are transgender ;/ You seem to be very narrow-minded and unsympathetic.
    Oh wow. You can't change a person's genes. This is a man who looks like a woman, end of story. I just don't think science has reached the level where they can completely switch someone's gender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronith View Post
    I am not being an asshole. Some transsexuals lie that they are woman and leave out the fact that they are a man. Leading those men on, which is morally and ethically wrong.

    I don't give a shit if that other person was in America's Next Top Model. This contest is for women. ....women......Not men. He was born a man, and all the surgery in the world will not change that,

    ---------- Post added at 09:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:06 PM ----------



    Oh wow. You can't change a person's genes. This is a man who looks like a woman, end of story. I just don't think science has reached the level where they can completely switch someone's gender.
    >.> wow. it doesn't matter what the XY gene is. XY gene simply defines GENITALIA. For the third time, chemical balance and neurology plays an EXTREMELY important part in defining everything about a person >.>

    Genetic studies
    In 2008, a study was performed to attempt to find a link between genes and transsexuality. The researchers compared 112 male-to-female transsexuals (both androphilic and gynephilic), mostly already undergoing hormone treatment, with 258 cis-gendered male controls. The male-to-female transsexuals were more likely than non-transsexual males to have a longer version of a receptor gene for the sex hormone androgen or testosterone. The research suggests reduced androgen and androgen signaling contributes to the female gender identity of male to female transsexuals. The authors say that it is possible that a decrease in testosterone levels in the brain during development might result in incomplete masculinization of the brain in male to female transsexuals, resulting in a more feminized brain and a female gender identity.


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    there are always other factors. Don't make things so black and white.

    Imagine that your brain was structured so that you associated with being feminine to the extent where your chemical balance and neurology strongly resembled female gender identity?? You define what you are in accordance to your brain structure and patterns, everything from personality, intelligence, consciousness, sexuality...everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronith View Post
    He*

    XY chromosomes----------> HE is STILL a MAN.

    Therefore he cannot/shouldn't have entered.

    ---------- Post added at 06:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:46 PM ----------

    What would you do if you picked this person up in a bar and he didn't tell you he was man?

    D:

    All genitalia development starts out the same. You can barely notice the difference. Without quoting me try and figure out which is which ;/

    No She is not a man. She is whatever she wants to be. Furthermore there should be no differences between roles that 'men' and 'women' play.
    Like I said before, psychologically she was always a woman, now her body reflects that. How hard is that to understand?

    Hypothetically speaking, if I met someone at a bar (and furthered our relationship to a stage where the following would be important >.>) that had a gender change I'd accept them for who they are however I'd express my concerns about child birth (being both women) or and the prospect adopting children in general (being a mother is something that I want to do). Love is love, and it shouldn't be based on if they have a penis or a vagina ;/ There are deeper aspects that I take into account than physiology.

    I feel sorry for your children, if they ever have the preference for the same sex or are transgender ;/ You seem to be very narrow-minded and unsympathetic.
    Last edited by Chi; 05-18-2012 at 07:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi View Post
    She is transgender.

    She was male due to the fact she has/had a penis and her chromosome combination is XY.

    Psychologically she was a female since birth (mentally and neurological structure) and now her hormones and body reflect that.

    Who are you to judge what is a woman and what is a man? Who cares if she enters the beauty pageant? She's a decent looking person.
    Good god, I love you.


    A sad, crude, twisted little girl.

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    Im sorry but the way i view it if you where born with a penis you can't enter a contest for woman.

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