Even if the abortion was done in early stages of pregnancy its like the same than killing at 8 months.
Abortion is a murder, Im totally against it, why is abortion better than giving the baby for adoption?
An adopted child doesnt mean hell be unhappy.
If you abort, you are killing an innocent life, why does the baby has to take the worst part?
If the girl was raped, if she aborts shes doing something much worse than the rapist.
I am personally very pro choice. Firstly i feel that the baby is completely part of the woman until it is born and that this should give the woman the right to deal with it however she pleases. Secondly (this may come off as a dick comment, but i don't mean for it to), the world has a massive overpopulation problem, and i dont feel saving ever single fetus is going to help that.
Abortion is not murder. I've had this discussion on HB before. And being pro-life and actively protesting or putting down people who need abortions is just WRONG. You are potentially killing them by sticking your nose in their business. ALSO added before i just cut and paste my last response (sorry if it is a bit messy cbf fix it) that abortion pictures are FAKE and usually enhanced by pro-life groups to make a (false) statement.
Choice up to the 21st week of gestation and then it should be illegal as brain cells start forming and pain can be felt (and thus its a form of abuse). If the pregnancy will kill the mother, there should be the option for the infant to be aborted.
Every month a woman aborts a potential child (period), the womb will naturally abort a fetus if there is a defect (sometimes it doesn't). Being pro-life means you should be attempting to conceive every month because having your period in a sense is abortion. If someone does not have a functioning brain then they are not alive and medically they are classified as brain dead. Their organs will continue to work if sustained calories (food) is provided but they only continue to live because doctors and machines permit them to live. The fetus UP until 21 weeks is the same. It is not technically a living human, it has the potential for sure but its brain dead and its been proven that brain function starts to occur around this 21 week mark. That's 84 days and plenty of time to decide if an individual wants to carry the child to term.
If someone falls pregnant who does not have the money, security or even love for the child why should they carry it to term? It will only cause the potential child more pain, suffering and grief.
I'm also pro sexual education (abstinence is not sexual eduction - increased sexual education>lower teen pregnancy rates>lower abortion rates), pro porn/legal brothels (studies show where there is more access to porn/sexual entertainment there are less cases of reported rape).
Yes and that is the problem, especially in third world countries and highly religious states where abstinence is taught over contraception.
First World Country Example.
"DON'T USE CONDOMS GOD SAYS NO"
-Teenagers be teenages, have sex, but decide not to use a condom because buying one would bring SHAME ON THEIR FAMILY, so they do it in secret-
BAM, Pregnant. Goes to get a back ally abortion because once again having an abortion with their parents knowing would equal SHAME. 75% of infection. Death to teenager.
Third World Country Example
Pope tells them "Don't use contraception, god says it is a sin (sinfulness = punishment will continue)"
People don't use condoms, too many children to sustain, family lives in poverty for the rest of their life. No safe abortion facilities available. Women die from unsafe abortions (just youtube documentaries to see for yourself). Also happens in the many rape cases there. It's not about keeping their legs closed. Its about women being second, being tools for men and having no control over their body.
The point is, don't be pro-life, being pro-life means that you are sticking your nose in other people's business, POTENTIALLY supporting a side that will close (Safe) abortion centers and therefore leading to unnecessary death of a living and self-functioning human being. You are also supporting the fact that women have no choice in what happens to their body.
If anything be neutral, be pro-sexual education and contraception ;3 Education is the key? Or so they say ;D
"I think one of the biggest problems with the abortion debate is that the two sides aren't in direct opposition. The pro-life movement seeks to force their moral beliefs on others - grounded in their own religion or personal philosophy. The pro-choice movement doesn't make claims on the morality of abortion - we leave that as an individual choice for every woman faced with an unwanted pregnancy. If they feel abortion is wrong and they want to give their child up for adoption, or keep it, we will support their decision."
Not my words, but this is what I believe in. If you guys are interested, you can find a lot of pro choice reasons from MIT students here: (you need an account to see links)
Chi, you are so beast. That post is epic and I pretty much agree with you. I think a woman should have choice, however if your baby is developed enough to be classified as human then abortion should be illegal. There needs to be a pregnancy term limit on whether you are illegible for abortion or not. I also believe that if the mother's life is at risk, then abortion could become a serious option.
Last edited by Tay; 12-31-2011 at 12:32 AM.
There's nothing more that I could have asked for � except for it to last forever,
I am prochoice. What a woman does with HER body is up to her and her alone,
with the exception of the father having a say in the situation aswell of course.
But even he can't force her to abort or keep the child. I do find is horrible when a woman
has more than one abortion though, but I still believe she deserves her freedom of choice.
I also respect people who are pro-life, even if I don't agree with their opinions.
All in all, leave it to the mother to decide what she wants to do.
Chi's post is completely right. Having a baby would ruin a human's life forever if its not wanted, and also baby's life.
Abortion would an option to stop missery on many familys, and to stop the overcrowding.
We need more sexual education... MANY girls feels shame for asking for condoms/pills/contraceptives. That shouldnt be like that...
At least, I know many friends that they dont even like to talk about sex... What the fuck? Where did you came from? You're not 10-12 years darling...
We have to make porn EXPLICIT, why keep it implicit? Thats probably what makes kids watch it... Hidden, prohibited, only for adults... All what a kid needs to get interest on it.
They look at it, and they looks at these faces... They look like they're enjoying it, right? Why dont we test it?
And there goes another kid pregnant... She/he didnt know about contraceptives, they're 11 years old...
Thats the biggest problem.
Porn should be legal for all ages, and sexual education should start earlier.
No curiosity and know about the theme = Less unwanted pregnancies
Less unwanted pregnancies = Less aborts
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I am pro choice, but I am against abortion. At the very least for my own body.
I do believe a woman should be able to commit abortion if she has been raped because that is a different situation where you had no choice in the matter, but even then (again, mainly thinking in my own perspective) I am more supportive of adoption after birth then abortion. Having said that is "ok" in a situation like that, I am far more against abortion when it's someones own fault ... Like a stupid teen "forgetting" a condom and then just getting the kid removed. I am firmly of the believe that people should bear the consequence of their own mistakes. When it comes to knowing a kid will be severely disabled ... I don't know. It might be unfair for the kid to be born, but it also a life ... So for that I don't know. I would consider abortion if I would know that when I would become pregnant, but I'm not sure if I really would be able to murder something in my own body...
I am pro choice. I have a problem with kids having sex early but that is another discussion. But a woman has control over her own body and if she does not believe she can take care of the child mentally or physically then the option of abortion should be there for her. However, I do not support the party animal type person that ends up pregnant every few months because she sleeps with a new drunk 'friend' from the bar every weekend and does not want a child to get in the way of her further party times so she has several abortions. If you are not prepared to have a kid then use protection, whatever the method may be.
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